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Ultra Peanut 09-08-2008 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 4994803)
Sorry. Pretty unclassy for a female to characterize a post the way she did.

Ain't no party like a KC Johnny party, cause a KC Johnny party don't stop.

alanm 09-08-2008 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jidar (Post 4994921)
Its hard as hell to add 25lbs of muscle but even 10lbs of muscle might have prevented that injury.

I'm certain they had conversations about it. I'm just wondering if they decided against it because it would affect this throwing motion. The same kind of flawed logic they use with Pitchers to an extent.

ChiefsCountry 09-08-2008 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 4994950)
I'm certain they had conversations about it. I'm just wondering if they decided against it because it would affect this throwing motion. The same kind of flawed logic they use with Pitchers to an extent.

Some people also just cant gain weight. NFL workouts will put muscle on you.

jidar 09-08-2008 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 4994950)
I'm certain they had conversations about it. I'm just wondering if they decided against it because it would affect this throwing motion. The same kind of flawed logic they use with Pitchers to an extent.

That muscle affecting throwing motion thing is such bullshit. If that was true the steroid problem in MLB wouldn't be like it is, and anyone can see that a hitters swing is going to be more touchy than a QBs throw.

jidar 09-08-2008 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 4994956)
Some people also just cant gain weight. NFL workouts will put muscle on you.

I don't buy that shit. Thermodynamics man, you take in more calories they have to go somewhere. I refuse to believe that with everything they know about nutrition and muscle gain these days that nobody could figure out how to make Brodie gain weight. I'm more inclined to believe they either haven't emphasized it with him or he isn't doing what he's told to do.
Either way it's a moot point, even if he can't gain weight for some weird assed reason it doesn't change the fact that he can't play in the NFL without more muscle mass.

HemiEd 09-08-2008 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 4994340)
Our QB is still playing in college.

As soon as Brodie got up slow every Chiefs fan in the world knew he was no longer our QBOTF.

Yep, pretty much.

Micjones 09-08-2008 10:03 AM

We definitely need to be on the horn with Cleveland.

Deberg_1990 09-08-2008 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4995058)
We definitely need to be on the horn with Cleveland.

The Browns wont be giving up Quinn this year. I think they will wait and see how the season plays out to figure out if Anderson was a one year wonder or not.

OnTheWarpath15 09-08-2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 4995075)
The Browns wont be giving up Quinn this year. I think they will wait and see how the season plays out to figure out if Anderson was a one year wonder or not.

Exactly.

They'd be foolish to part with Quinn until they knew for sure Anderson was the real deal.

Buehler445 09-08-2008 10:42 AM

Preface: I fully acknowledge that Brodie has an injury hustory and that will likely be his undoing in KC.

That being said, I don't know how the **** he was supposed to do anything about that hit. The hit came before he finished his drop and had no time to brace for it. If he would have had another half a second to roll his shoulders and take the hit it may have been different. But from what I saw, there was no way to avoid it. His shoulder was jammed into the ground. And I don't think if he was 10 pounds heavier it would have made a damn bit of difference. Moreover, if he has a sprianed shoulder, he's not throwing any footballs.

I understand that he has to stay on the field. That's a reality, but I think this injury is just part of the game, like we are saying about Brady's. I must reiterate that he IS injury prone and has to stay on the field, but IMO, this is a football injury, not a pussy injury.

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BigRedChief 09-08-2008 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 4995162)
Preface: I fully acknowledge that Brodie has an injury hustory and that will likely be his undoing in KC.

That being said, I don't know how the **** he was supposed to do anything about that hit. The hit came before he finished his drop and had no time to brace for it. If he would have had another half a second to roll his shoulders and take the hit it may have been different. But from what I saw, there was no way to avoid it. His shoulder was jammed into the ground. And I don't think if he was 10 pounds heavier it would have made a damn bit of difference. Moreover, if he has a sprianed shoulder, he's not throwing any footballs.

I understand that he has to stay on the field. That's a reality, but I think this injury is just part of the game, like we are saying about Brady's. I must reiterate that he IS injury prone and has to stay on the field, but IMO, this is a football injury, not a pussy injury.

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All of his injuries have been on routine plays.

For Crissakes Huard got sacked the same way in the same game and landed on the same shoulder in the same way. He's 36 years old and didn't get injured.

talastan 09-08-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts (Post 4994273)
I haven't given up hope, but it sure doesn't look good at this point. If he goes down again at any point this season for any reason, we have to start looking in another direction. Most of you will say we already do.

This IMO is one of the best thoughts on the Croyle matter and how I exactly feel. Croyle is incredibly gifted with talent, but he needs to be able to stay on the field. I hope a miracle happens and he can stay protected for the rest of this season.

Direckshun 09-08-2008 11:17 AM

You're going to get injured if your GAMEPLAN

DOESN'T

KEEP

THE DEFENSE

HONEST.

King_Chief_Fan 09-08-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 4995162)
Preface: I fully acknowledge that Brodie has an injury hustory and that will likely be his undoing in KC.

That being said, I don't know how the **** he was supposed to do anything about that hit. The hit came before he finished his drop and had no time to brace for it. If he would have had another half a second to roll his shoulders and take the hit it may have been different. But from what I saw, there was no way to avoid it. His shoulder was jammed into the ground. And I don't think if he was 10 pounds heavier it would have made a damn bit of difference. Moreover, if he has a sprianed shoulder, he's not throwing any footballs.

I understand that he has to stay on the field. That's a reality, but I think this injury is just part of the game, like we are saying about Brady's. I must reiterate that he IS injury prone and has to stay on the field, but IMO, this is a football injury, not a pussy injury.

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BS...Croyle is a fraile vagina....I see QB's fall like that tons of times, even high schoolers. He is done, finished and should be gone.

1ChiefsDan 09-08-2008 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4995058)
We definitely need to be on the horn with Cleveland.

Please let this happen:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...gements/1.html


• What does Tom Brady's injury mean? Well, besides the obvious end of New England's Super Bowl dreams if he's gone for the year, for one it means the New York Jets now have the best quarterback in the AFC East, in Brett Favre. That's a staggering turn of events for a team that reported to training camp with Chad Pennington and Kellen Clemens set to fight it out for the starting job.
I'm not saying that New England can't still win the division, but it would seem that a lot would depend on which veteran quarterback the Patriots bring in to fill his roster spot. New England isn't just going to go with Matt Cassel, rookie Kevin O'Connell, and re-sign the waived Matt Gutierrez. Chris Simms and Joey Harrington would seem possibilities, or maybe the Pats would still make a bid to acquire Damon Huard -- who nearly helped upset them on Sunday -- from Kansas City.
Any way you look at it, the Brady-less Patriots just got eminently more beatable.


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