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'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5302697)
Seriously. I'm done.

He's not MARRIED to a scheme.

He runs a 34 hybrid NOW.

He's run a 43 in the PAST.

This isn't that difficult to understand.

Then stop throwing the thing out as a possibility by listing the merits of Dorsey as an end and Tank Johnson as a nose tackle.

And I'm not just talking about Rex Ryan, I'm talking about any person, writ large (obviously indicated in my post above) that values scheme over the talents of the individuals, and I've made that abundantly clear several times in this thread.

buddha 12-16-2008 07:07 PM

Scott Pioli for GM (if we could get him...I have my doubts)

HC: Cower is going to Washington (my prediction), so I really don't know who would make the most sense at this point.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 5302729)
Scott Pioli for GM (if we could get him...I have my doubts)

HC: Cower is going to Washington (my prediction), so I really don't know who would make the most sense at this point.

After Zorn's fight with Portis, I could see this happening. Seems like he's losing that team.

Mecca 12-16-2008 07:11 PM

If you hire a coach that values scheme over players you'll get Arizona where their head coach hire basically flushed Leinarts draft choice.

doomy3 12-16-2008 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5302679)
GM: Pioli or Polian
HC: McDaniels, Garrett or Spag. [Garrett won't come here, though]

(Hot-shot coordinators often don't pan out, though, but it's worth the risk.)

The main thing is just to clear out the not-to-lose stench at Arrowhead. Please no one in any capacity who talks about a QB as a game manager, and has nightmares of a QB throwing an interception.

Spag comes from Coughlin's tree, and that is EXACTLY his philosophy

SAUTO 12-16-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302739)
If you hire a coach that values scheme over players you'll get Arizona where their head coach hire basically flushed Leinarts draft choice.

seems to have worked out pretty good though(warner IS a top mvp candidate)

doomy3 12-16-2008 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302739)
If you hire a coach that values scheme over players you'll get Arizona where their head coach hire basically flushed Leinarts draft choice.

ROFLROFLROFL

OnTheWarpath15 12-16-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5302710)
Yeah, I must have not posted to you that "you can run a 3-4 look in a certain scheme" but it shouldn't be a part of the entire package.

Yet, despite this, I'm not acknowledging anything you say or paying attention?

And yet, you go on defending the concept of a 3-4, when it's plain as ****ing day that no one in their right mind would implement it with the talent we have here, unless you want to flush a top 5 draft pick one year into his career. And yet, despite saying that it's just part of a system he uses, you claim that Dorsey would work as a 3-4 end, despite the fact that you supposedly aren't saying that this is a possibility.

I'm not the one calling people a one who sucks the penis because I disagree with them, either.

You do this shit with Mecca all the time in draft threads. Yeah, I'm abrasive and I think I know a lot, but I'm also not hypocritical enough to call someone out on that when it's one of my biggest personality characteristics, as it is with you.

**** it, I'm not done.

Not ONCE in this thread did I say that Dorsey WOULD work at DE in a 34. I ASKED WHY he wouldn't work. **** as it stands now, I don't know if he's going to work in a 43, much less a 34.

I'm not advocating making the switch. I'm merely making suggestions as to what may/could happen if the new coach WANTED to make the switch.

Just like Baltimore did earlier this decade.

Just like the Niners did when Nolan was brought in.

Just like the Jets are doing now.

As for Mecca, he gets shit from me because he refuses to have an open mind about anything that's not his idea, he goes out of his way to be negative, and he flat out makes shit up to fit his argument.

And considering you are far and away the biggest name-caller on the board, I find it funny you're calling me out for using one who sucks the penis.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5302749)
ROFLROFLROFL

Dude, it's true. Whisenhunt was so tied to a down the field attack that he basically neutered Leinart via his scheme.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5302752)
**** it, I'm not done.

Not ONCE in this thread did I say that Dorsey WOULD work at DE in a 34. I ASKED WHY he wouldn't work. **** as it stands now, I don't know if he's going to work in a 43, much less a 34.

Do you honestly think he'd fail at DE in a 3-4?

Play him on the left side, like Baltimore does Pryce and Douglas.



That does not read like a rhetorical question at all.

And FTR, I don't unload on people for disagreeing with me, I do it for dumbassery. Mecca and I disagree about player evals all the time, and I don't call him a one who sucks the penis, because I know that he can ground his reasoning in something sane, not "well, he plays in the BXII, so he's the best prospect in teh world!!"

You wanna see me blast someone, have them talking about Chase Daniel is a first round pick, or how Todd Reesing could run the spread for the Pats, or how Bob Sanders is the MVP of the Colts.

Infidel Goat 12-16-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5302431)
Chris Polian and Jim Caldwell

I'm sorry, but Jim Grobe has demonstrated good coaching can produce wins at Wake Forest (and that Jim Caldwell was a failure as a head coach).

I'm a Wake Forest fan and gave Caldwell every opportunity to impress me.

Pass.

SAUTO 12-16-2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5302754)
Dude, it's true. Whisenhunt was so tied to a down the field attack that he basically neutered Leinart via his scheme.

once again: how has that worked for arizona?

Mecca 12-16-2008 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel Goat (Post 5302762)
I'm sorry, but Jim Grobe has demonstrated good coaching can produce wins at Wake Forest (and that Jim Caldwell was a failure as a head coach).

I'm a Wake Forest fan and gave Caldwell every opportunity to impress me.

Pass.

College and the NFL are way different, 95% of college coaching is recruiting.

Mecca 12-16-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5302765)
once again: how has that worked for arizona?

Tell me in a couple years when Warner is 40 and they have to find a QB...playing a system that the guy who's 24 can't play so a 38 year old can succeed isn't very smart...

Ebolapox 12-16-2008 07:20 PM

chris polian for GM
head coach? I'm not really picky. maybe jim schwartz (so I can make cheesy 'spaceballs' jokes).


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