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Did Officiating Sway the Outcome of Super Bowl XLIII? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=201601)

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 5453177)

Cross thread humor. :)

I know.

Okay.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5453066)

I'm sure it's no coincidence that the people that think the Cards got screwed were people that were rooting for Arizona, had money riding on Arizona, or both.

:rolleyes:

I was rooting for Arizona. No way they got ****ed anything remotely like Seattle did a couple of years ago.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5453192)

I was rooting for Arizona. No way they got ****ed anything remotely like Seattle did a couple of years ago.

Me too, and I agree.

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5451084)

Ignoring the bad fumble call on Warner on the last play of the game for the time being.....

1. According to the rule book, the celebration Santonio Holmes did after scoring the last TD was excessive celebration, and should have been a 15 yard penalty on the kick off. I realize people think it is a dumb rule, but you can't just let it slide when he CLEARLY used the ball as a prop in his celebration. It's been called all year - don't ignore it now.

2. On the Warner incomplete/fumble, a Pittsburgh player (I think Lamarr Woodley) took his helmet off to celebrate before the play had been whistled dead. Again, that is a 15 year penalty according to the rule book, and as Chiefs fans we have seen it called at the end of a game (Dwayne Rudd).

That is 30 extra yards Arizona should have had on the last drive of the game according to the NFL rule book.

With those 30 yards, they would have had a much better shot of getting a last second TD to win the game.

They dont usually call these in the SB..let em play. Plus Warner took his helmet off as well

Nobody knows for sure but Kurt Warner's "fumble" was a incomplete pass and there was a 15 year penalty...pretty sure the Cardinals would of had a shot at the end zone from 30 yards out with that tall receiver..what's his name...o ya...LARRY FITZGERALD

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 5453340)

agreed..it was inexcusable not to review that

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Holding calls were excessive. Harrison fell down on purpose to get the flags.

That's hilarious. Gandy was completely ****ing outclassed, and could have been called a lot more than he actually was.

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 5450955)

What forward pass?

Oh, you mean the play where the ball was knocked out of his hand and landed at his feet, well before his arm started going forward?

FORWARD PASS!

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 5453369)

Totally unconvincing. Where are the other angles, the closeups, etc. The video poster left them out because they don't support his point.

You can always find some people who will doubt every call in every game. "We wuz robbed" has been the fans' lament for centuries. You can ask, "well, why wasn't it reviewed?" The simple answer is that IT WAS REVIEWED - at least, that's what the NFL says.*

My question to those who believe the NFL/refs cheated the Cardinals (and so many other teams before them), and are lying now to cover it up - why do you keep giving them your money? Do you enjoy being fleeced by conmen?

*An NFL spokesman said yesterday that the play was reviewed in the booth by replay assistant Bob McGrath. He determined that the play was clearly a fumble and there was no reason for referee Terry McAulay to review it.

Mike Pereira, the NFL's vice president of officiating, reviewed the play and confirmed it was called correctly, according to the spokesman.

"The play was reviewed and confirmed by the replay assistant in the booth," Greg Aiello, the NFL's senior vice president of public relations, said in a written statement. "That is standard procedure. If it is clear, there is no reason to send it to the referee. Mike Pereira said it was properly handled. It was a fumble."

On the replay, it appeared that the ball was knocked from Warner's hand and he no longer was in control of the ball by the time his arm was moving forward.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020202809.html

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Originally Posted by orange (Post 5453383)

Totally unconvincing. Where are the other angles, the closeups, etc. The video poster left them out because they don't support his point.

WTF are you talking about those are all the angles...the ball didn't leave his hand until it reached the end of his throwing motion then it went flying forward.....not down towards the ground or backward....forward pass genius!

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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 5450955)

What forward pass?

Oh, you mean the play where the ball was knocked out of his hand and landed at his feet, well before his arm started going forward?

It was a forward pass. The defender made contact with the bal but Warner muscled it through and had control as he pushed it forward. I know cause I saw it close up 47 times on ESPN today. Add to that, Holmes should have gotten a 15 yard penalty for using the ball as a prop and Fitz would have had a real chance at getting a jumpball touchdown. Obviously the refs affected the outcome.