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|Zach| 02-10-2009 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477224)
It's obviously hard to get an answer to a simple question that doesn't involve severe hyperbole.
And what question did you ask in your post about dropping back.

It is hard to get a simple post from you without you making commentary about how people should and shouldn't interact with you on this board.

Mecca 02-10-2009 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477236)
And what question did you ask in your post about dropping back.

It is hard to get a simple post from you without you making commentary about how people should and shouldn't interact with you on this board.
So you feel the spread/pistol is the wave of the future in the NFL then?

|Zach| 02-10-2009 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5477234)
I personally think we should draft Sanchez. I'm on record as saying as much. But to pretend that Thigpen has no future and is the worst QB in the history of the game is kind of ass-reeruned also.

Here's the deal. Herm enforced his suck on the offense. Croyle got dead, like Croyle does. Huard quit, like Huard does. Thigpen comes in. Thigpen sucks. Until someone tells Herm to stfu and see if Gailey can work some magic. We go to the pistol. We score a lot of points. Still lose.

Thigpen put up numbers in a non-pro style offense. He sucked in the second half. The offense sucked in the redzone.

But the kid made some plays. Draft Sanchez, see what you have in the kid with the offense that the coach wants to run. If he sucks, fine. If not, cool! We've got a battle on our hands for QB.

That's about the only case that can be made for him.

He is not the unequivocal QBOTF for this team.

He is also not complete ass.
Thats it. Thats fine...

If we get another QB and he does better than fine. He is our new QB.

But the idea that Thigpen can't get better is stupid and false...and the idea that these top QBs are sure things is ridiculous.

OnTheWarpath15 02-10-2009 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477231)
Its not a bunch of excuses...it is big factors the guy had going against him...

Yet with all those things?

He moved the ball...and got the Chiefs in the endzone. He is a gamer.
Did you happen to turn games off at halftime?

You want a gamer?

Ben Roethlisberger is a gamer.

He finds a way to WIN.

Need a 90 yard scoring drive with 2:30 left on the clock to win the Super Bowl? With broken ribs?

THAT'S a gamer.

Tyler Thigpen is a parlor trick, who needs a gimmick offense to have any success whatsoever. But only in the 1st half of games.

|Zach| 02-10-2009 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477240)
So you feel the spread/pistol is the wave of the future in the NFL then?
I feel Tyler Thigpen is a decent QB that moves the chains. As far as the offense goes I trust our new head coach and will trust the offense coaching staff to do whatever they need to put our QB and offense in a position to succeed.

|Zach| 02-10-2009 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477242)
Did you happen to turn games off at halftime?

You want a gamer?

Ben Roethlisberger is a gamer.

He finds a way to WIN.

Need a 90 yard scoring drive with 2:30 left on the clock to win the Super Bowl? With broken ribs?

THAT'S a gamer.

Tyler Thigpen is a parlor trick, who needs a gimmick offense to have any success whatsoever. But only in the 1st half of games.
Why can't he improve?

|Zach| 02-10-2009 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477223)
Would he be able to improve after 8 starts?

Don't be afraid to answer this question with a simple yes or no.
Why didn't anyone touch this one...looking for an answer...

Would a newly drafted QB have the ability to improve after 8 starts?

beach tribe 02-10-2009 05:53 PM
Love him, or hate him, anyone who says that a guy who was thrown to the wolves in his rookie season with ZERO first team pre-season snaps, who had played entirely against bush league competition, did not do an admirable job, is just a dumbass. I really want to draft a QB, but even if we do, I have no problem starting the season with Thigpen, and would actually prefer it, while the other QB gets up to speed. Considering the circumstance, Thigpen did a damn good job. Spread or not. The guy had absolutely no time at all to get ready for the pro game, and still put points on the board. I want him to stick around, I just don't think his ceiling is high enough, becuase of his accuracy issues. Those are hard to fix, bit I would feel comfortable with him standing next to Haley by week 10.

Basileus777 02-10-2009 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477247)
Why can't he improve?
Why should we expect it? Why should we pass over drafting a QB for him?

|Zach| 02-10-2009 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5477250)
Why should we expect it?
Becuase he has had none of the support system other QBs get...

The whole offense he was a part of changed in the middle of the season...no training camp as a main part of the offense.

Had a suspect line and running game but still made things happen.

Young players improve.

OnTheWarpath15 02-10-2009 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 5477233)
You're way out of line with this post.
Why?

Who in this thread has made a legitimate case for Thigpen?

No one is willing to, because they know at the end of the ledger, there will be more negatives than positives.

If you want to HOPE he'll be good, feel free.

But to expect him to is another story. He has almost everything working against him, and almost nothing working for him.

cdcox 02-10-2009 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477242)
Tyler Thigpen is a parlor trick,
It's like L. Ron Hubbard made a bet with someone that he convince a whole fan base that Tyler Thigpen was an NFL starting QB.

beach tribe 02-10-2009 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477255)
Becuase he has had none of the support system other QBs get...

The whole offense he was a part of changed in the middle of the season...no training camp as a main part of the offense.

Had a suspect line and running game but still made things happen.

Young players improve.
So you're advocating passing on a QB BECAUSE of Thigpen?

You need to get you cat scanned.

The Franchise 02-10-2009 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477255)
Becuase he has had none of the support system other QBs get...

The whole offense he was a part of changed in the middle of the season...no training camp as a main part of the offense.

Had a suspect line and running game but still made things happen.

Young players improve.
Dude....the whole offense changed BECAUSE OF HIM. It changed because he proved that he couldn't run a normal offense. Quit using that as an excuse for him.

SAUTO 02-10-2009 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477147)
Playing to be the exception has really worked for this team, .
but it's worked for new england, huh?


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