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The_Doctor10 04-30-2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5723197)
The fact that you can't immediately tell who's eligible out of all 11 players is part of the reason why it isn't legal. Anyone on the field can be an eligible receiver coming to the line of scrimmage because they're breaking the jersey numbering rule. That in itself gives a huge advantage over legal offensive formations. That's the point. Legal formations don't allow you to do that.

And fake punts and kicks are still perfectly safe due to the differences in jersey numbering and eligibility on obvious kicking/punting downs. That's how they closed the loophole. They revised the rules to provide distinction as to what downs would allow which formations.



Every level of football has said that it's illegal. That's the purpose of the ban. The National Federation of State High School Associations, the NCAA, and the NFL now all have rules prohibiting it.

How about we just do away with the defenses showing blitz and then dropping into coverage, eh? That seems to de awfully deceptive. If the QB thinks the entire secondary is coming for his head, he may jump the gun and throw a poor pass. And the corner who looked like he was gonna blitz just stands there, picks it off, and waltzes into the endzone.

Here's a thought: since the players in the NFL have gradually evolved to be much bigger and much faster than previous generations, why not maybe make the field bigger? Then you can have all the traditional offense you want with a little more room to move around.

kcfanXIII 04-30-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 5722537)
By using a loophole.

a) its not an every down situation to use the swinging gate.
b) the SG still satisfies the requirements of 5 down lineman. not 5 guys wearing receiver numbers.

Fish 04-30-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 5723212)
That sounds ridiculous, to me. What if I want to punt on 1st down? (I know a local coach who makes the playoffs yearly who has done so)? What if it's late in the game and I want to try a FG not on 4th down?

You're free to punt on first down if you'd like, or kick a FG on a down other than 4th. You just can't have 11 guys wearing receiver numbers on the field when you do so.

htismaqe 04-30-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 5728003)
How about we just do away with the defenses showing blitz and then dropping into coverage, eh? That seems to de awfully deceptive. If the QB thinks the entire secondary is coming for his head, he may jump the gun and throw a poor pass. And the corner who looked like he was gonna blitz just stands there, picks it off, and waltzes into the endzone.

Here's a thought: since the players in the NFL have gradually evolved to be much bigger and much faster than previous generations, why not maybe make the field bigger? Then you can have all the traditional offense you want with a little more room to move around.

There's a HUGE difference between pre-snap deception and cheating by doctoring jersey numbers.

JFC.

whoman69 04-30-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 5479796)
Oh I agree. But the point of the A11 was to give this small school with no real line talent a fighting chance. It's no fun running a normal offense, failing miserably, and then having the other team run up the score. If they have the physical ability to field a team with a legitimate o-line, they should probably do it. But it doesn't make sense to criminalize an idea designed to prevent a team from being used as a league doormat.

Horrible argument. If you are a smaller school like that, then your competition should also be smaller schools. They have classifications in high school sports for a reason.


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