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Brock 02-14-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by orange (Post 5492469)
But I'm sure random fans on a Chiefs site know better....

Well, considering he was voted the second most overrated player in the league by the actual players in the league, I'll go with what they think.

DaKCMan AP 02-14-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by orange (Post 5492469)
But I'm sure random fans on a Chiefs site know better....

:rolleyes:

WTF do you expect his teammates to say? "He didn't deserve it, I'm better. Without me Brian is shit."

orange 02-14-2009 07:22 PM

I'll go with what his teammates think, myself.

Guys who played alongside both him and Harris.

DaKCMan AP 02-14-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by orange (Post 5492488)
I'll go with what his teammates think, myself.

Guys who played alongside both him and Harris.

You can go with whatever you want, but you're wrong.

orange 02-14-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5492491)
You can go with whatever you want, but you're wrong.

Me, Brown, Briggs, and Ogunleye. I'll take it.

Speaking of "wrong," anyone want to try answering why you would take a CB with the third pick - something NO team has done in at least a decade?


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Originally Posted by orange (Post 5491153)
For those of you stressing the "positional value" of draft picks - not one Cornerback has been drafted earlier than pick 5 in the last ten years. The one who was picked fifth - Terence Newman - was a bit of a reach.

Explanation?


[addendum] My quick count shows only 8 total going in the top ten picks during that entire decade.


DaKCMan AP 02-14-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by orange (Post 5492492)
Speaking of "wrong," anyone want to try answering why you would take a CB with the third pick - something NO team has done in at least a decade?

After you explain why you want to take a LB with the third pick - something NO team has done in over 20 years - and the only time one has recently been taken 3rd or earlier he turned out to be a BUST?

orange 02-14-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5492507)
After you explain why you want to take a LB with the third pick - something NO team has done in over 20 years - and the only time one has recently been taken 3rd or earlier he turned out to be a BUST?

I'm actually not calling for a LB. I think they'll go DL - but NOT CB. Some of you are throwing Jenkins out as an alternative to Curry or a Tackle and it makes no sense.


p.s. 3-time All-Pro LaVar Arrington was a BUST? What does that make every player on the Chiefs?

DaKCMan AP 02-14-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by orange (Post 5492513)
I'm actually not calling for a LB. I think they'll go DL - but NOT CB. Some of you are throwing Jenkins out as an alternative to Curry or a Tackle and it makes no sense.

Which defensive lineman in this draft do you think is worthy of the #3 overall selection?

orange 02-14-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5492523)
Which defensive lineman in this draft do you think is worthy of the #3 overall selection?

Raji.

Maybe Everett Brown - he's a physical freak (incredible speed), needs to show some character and mental capacity at the combines to move up. Of course, he'll probably be a LB in the NFL.

Orakpo maybe.

Fact is, there are no standout candidates beyond Stafford, really - except for a couple OT's but that brings us back to the thread topic: "Why does everyone keep saying we don't need a Tackle at #3?"

DaKCMan AP 02-14-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by orange (Post 5492535)
Raji.

Maybe Everett Brown - he's a physical freak (incredible speed), needs to show some character and mental capacity at the combines to move up. Of course, he'll probably be a LB in the NFL.

Orakpo maybe.

Fact is, there are no standout candidates beyond Stafford, really - except for a couple OT's but that brings us back to the thread topic: "Why does everyone keep saying we don't need a Tackle at #3?"

Which brings us back to the answer to the thread topic - because we already have a LT and you don't take a RT #3 overall.

orange 02-14-2009 07:51 PM

About Curry - it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the Chiefs take him. He may be the best FOOTBALL PLAYER in the draft, and that's what "the Patriots Way" has been all about. I realize he doesn't have sacks, but that may be due to how he was utilized. It doesn't mean he can't get them. As I pointed out on some other thread, Piolli/Belechick drafted Richard Seymour who had only 1.5 sacks as a senior (which is low, even for a DT, before someone chirps in). Sacks were never part of his package, but the Pats saw a football player there, and drafted him.

orange 02-14-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5492544)
Which brings us back to the answer to the thread topic - because we already have a LT and you don't take a RT #3 overall.

And you also don't take a CB #3 overall - except when you do (applies to both positions and LB, too).

DaKCMan AP 02-14-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by orange (Post 5492513)
p.s. 3-time All-Pro LaVar Arrington was a BUST? What does that make every player on the Chiefs?

Maybe bust is a little strong, but if you draft a guy #2 overall you should get more than 3 Pro Bowls and out of the league after 7 seasons. He never realized his massive amount of hype.

orange 02-14-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5492578)
Maybe bust is a little strong, but if you draft a guy #2 overall you should get more than 3 Pro Bowls and out of the league after 7 seasons. He never realized his massive amount of hype.

Head issues. The talent is certainly there (still good, even, if not for the injuries). At least he's not as bad as Ryan Leaf.

DaKCMan AP 02-14-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by orange (Post 5492586)
Head issues. The talent is certainly there (still good, even, if not for the injuries). At least he's not as bad as Ryan Leaf.

Absolutely had talent. Played very undisciplined and, IMO, dumb as rocks.


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