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Reerun_KC 02-22-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCwolf (Post 5517472)
I PRAY to CHRIST the Kansas City Chiefs DO NOT draft a QB with the #3 PICK in the draft.....THERE is NO QB in the Draft that warrants the #3 PICK period! I'm not at all sold on Stafford either......YES it is a HUGE need ..... but NO NO NO.....there is no QB worth that pick in the 09' DRAFT! Please don't let this happen.....Please.

So what do you suggest?

Mecca 02-22-2009 11:27 PM

Pat Whites deep ball looked better while at the same time he had slow sloppy dropbacks and his outs were very poor they didn't have much drive or velocity coming out, there was a point when I was like man some of these passes look like White is trying to hard to show his arm is strong enough that he's losing control of the ball.

Personally what I thought of White was he showed he was a good athlete which everyone already knew, and that he could throw a nice deep ball which doesn't have much to do with arm strength and on the real arm strength throws he was overcompensating so much to try to show his arm is strong he was losing everything else.

Which is why I kind of sat in amazement at the statement that White looked better than Sanchez that someone made.

Mecca 02-22-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5517497)
So what do you suggest?

Take the safe player we gotta be worried about right now win 6 games!

the Talking Can 02-22-2009 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCwolf (Post 5517472)
I PRAY to CHRIST the Kansas City Chiefs DO NOT draft a QB with the #3 PICK in the draft.....THERE is NO QB in the Draft that warrants the #3 PICK period! I'm not at all sold on Stafford either......YES it is a HUGE need ..... but NO NO NO.....there is no QB worth that pick in the 09' DRAFT! Please don't let this happen.....Please.

take that nonsense back to WPI where it belongs....

doomy3 02-22-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5517480)
Oh bull ****ing shit.

The two fly routes he threw were perfectly accurate, the WR had to take the slightest of hesitations to get there. Not one QB hit their guy in stride on the 9, and Pat White was the only one without a semblance of an underthrow.

It's funny that now you say they were perfectly accurate, because during the actual combine, here's what you had to say:

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5515543)
Neither one of those 9 routes were in stride from Sanchez, but they were good misses.


Good misses. I'm not sure how UNDERTHROWING a 9 route makes it a "good miss." Those are often times picked.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5517495)
No, they weren't. Not even close. They were most definitely behind the receivers.

They absolutely were not. If you wanted to see bad throws from the QBs on the deep balls, look at what Painter and Reilly did.

KCwolf 02-22-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5517500)
take that nonsense back to WPI where it belongs....

Really???.....So Take a QB regardless in your opinion? Sorry.....But I disagree.......While I do think the QB position is the most important position....I DO NOT think think it is a automatic selection based on this years draft class. Your willing to draft on position, rather that talent? And U believe the QB class has the talent to be drafted @ #3?

Mecca 02-22-2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KCwolf (Post 5517533)
Really???.....So Take a QB regardless in your opinion? Sorry.....But I disagree.......While I do think the QB position is the most important position....I DO NOT think think it is a automatic selection based on this years draft class. Your willing to draft on position, rather that talent? And U believe the QB class has the talent to be drafted @ #3?

I'm sure you think Sam Bradford is a better prospect than these guys too right?

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5517515)
It's funny that now you say they were perfectly accurate, because during the actual combine, here's what you had to say:




Good misses. I'm not sure how UNDERTHROWING a 9 route makes it a "good miss." Those are often times picked.

Idiot.

#1 I never said they were perfect throws. A perfect throw is to the outside shoulder in stride. I said no one hid them in stride.

If you underthrow a 9 by a half step, the receiver sees it and either gets run into (for a PI) or makes the catch, because it's nigh impossible for a CB running stride for stride to make that adjustment after the receiver has done it.

Hence the prevalence of the fade stop.

Shaid 02-22-2009 11:35 PM

I'm not saying don't draft the guy but you have to admit his throws today were not what you'd expect from the 3rd overall pick in the draft. If he had more starting experience I don't think the combine hurts him at all. The problem is he doesn't have a lot of starting experience and he is a Junior coming out. That makes the combine more important for him. I think he was too worried about proper footwork and proper mechanics and not on making an accurant pass. Hopefully his pro day looks better.

ChiefRon 02-22-2009 11:36 PM

I've seen conflicting reports about Sanchez today (didn't get to watch it myself).

Gruden & Mooch seemed to think he did "ok" and "solid", Mooch even mentioned him as "the next great QB from USC", other reports said he looked decent and showed the arm strength to make all the throws.

Then I come to CP and wham, he totally sucked, missed all the throws, etc.

This place will go nuts no matter who we draft.

Mecca 02-22-2009 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5517539)
I've seen conflicting reports about Sanchez today (didn't get to watch it myself).

Gruden & Mooch seemed to think he did "ok" and "solid", Mooch even mentioned him as "the next great QB from USC", other reports said he looked decent and showed the arm strength to make all the throws.

Then I come to CP and wham, he totally sucked, missed all the throws, etc.

This place will go nuts no matter who we draft.

Some people thought they were gonna see him display some sort of JaMarcus Russell cannon or something, those are the guys who awe people in workouts but then we look to the field...

Tribal Warfare 02-22-2009 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5517539)

Then I come to CP and wham, he totally sucked, missed all the throws, etc.

This place will go nuts no matter who we draft.

People don't know what to look for.

doomy3 02-22-2009 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5517537)
Idiot.

#1 I never said they were perfect throws. A perfect throw is to the outside shoulder in stride. I said no one hid them in stride.

If you underthrow a 9 by a half step, the receiver sees it and either gets run into (for a PI) or makes the catch, because it's nigh impossible for a CB running stride for stride to make that adjustment after the receiver has done it.

Hence the prevalence of the fade stop.

I just QUOTED you in this thread saying they were perfectly accurate.

And those weren't thown a half-step behind the receivers.

Mecca 02-22-2009 11:40 PM

By the way is Don Banks really quoted in the thread?

He's like the net version of Todd McShay.


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