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Will 03-01-2009 09:22 AM

I probably wouldn't go with Raji here becuase next years DL class is much better than this years. If all of the underclassman would have came out this year than there wouldn't be much discussion of Raji going number 3.

Mecca 03-01-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Will (Post 5542421)
I probably wouldn't go with Raji here becuase next years DL class is much better than this years. If all of the underclassman would have came out this year than there wouldn't be much discussion of Raji going number 3.

End yea, but finding a guy who can play NT isn't something that comes out along all that often it's a very hard spot to fill.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-01-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC (Post 5541527)
so mecca...you're telling me then, Curry doesn't know which way to run to the QB...like it's an art form similar to the Cirque Du Solier?

It's not a 40 yard dash, you ****ing moron, it's a complicated skillset that requires great footwork, leverage, explosive movements, fast hands, long arms, and great lower body strength.

Mecca 03-01-2009 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5542440)
It's not a 40 yard dash, you ****ing moron, it's a complicated skillset that requires great footwork, leverage, explosive movements, fast hands, long arms, and great lower body strength.

I bet you will be met with some defense like "you aren't a coach" no matter how clearly it is explained some people will never get it or they'll just ignore it one or the other.

philfree 03-01-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5542440)
It's not a 40 yard dash, you ****ing moron, it's a complicated skillset that requires great footwork, leverage, explosive movements, fast hands, long arms, and great lower body strength.

I don't think it's that complicated.



PhilFree:arrow:

Mecca 03-01-2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5542471)
I don't think it's that complicated.



PhilFree:arrow:

If it was easy pass rushers wouldn't be so valued, workout warrior DE's or LB's would be top flight pass rushers a guy like Mike Mamula would have been awesome...think about that.

DeezNutz 03-01-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5542481)
If it was easy pass rushers wouldn't be so valued, workout warrior DE's or LB's would be top flight pass rushers a guy like Mike Mamula would have been awesome...think about that.

If it were easy, DJ would be a much, much better player.

philfree 03-01-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5542481)
If it was easy pass rushers wouldn't be so valued, workout warrior DE's or LB's would be top flight pass rushers a guy like Mike Mamula would have been awesome...think about that.

I didn't say it was easy I said it wasn't that complicated.


PhilFree:arrow:

Mecca 03-01-2009 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5542496)
I didn't say it was easy I said it wasn't that complicated.


PhilFree:arrow:

More so than you'd ever think it is....I don't think Curry is a crappy player or anything but he's not going to solve the Chiefs sack problem.

Bwana 03-01-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5542500)
More so than you'd ever think it is....I don't think Curry is a crappy player or anything but he's not going to solve the Chiefs sack problem.

Do you think there is a player in the draft that is going to solve it?

I hope they end up trading down and picking up more draft picks at this point, "IF" the chance to do so presents itself. We still have a lot of holes to fill, a lot more holes IMHO than can be taken care of in one draft. I do however, want to see them get off to a good start in filling our numerous needs this year.

Mecca 03-01-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 5542523)
Do you think there is a player in the draft that is going to solve it?

I hope they end up trading down and picking up more draft picks at this point, "IF" the chance to do so presents itself. We still have a lot of holes to fill, a lot more holes IMHO than can be taken care of in one draft. I do however, want to see them get off to a good start in filling our numerous needs this year.

I don't really think he's a good fit for the 3-4, that doesn't mean he'd suck just that I don't think he'd live up to the pick.

We're going to need a NT above all else for that kind of defense though.

philfree 03-01-2009 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5542500)
More so than you'd ever think it is....I don't think Curry is a crappy player or anything but he's not going to solve the Chiefs sack problem.

Well not by himself. He could help the D alot though with all over play making ability. IMO he'll be able to take his ability to shed blocks combine that with his speed and he'll be able to rush the passer. He won't be DT.

PhilFree:arrow:

DeezNutz 03-01-2009 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5542530)
I don't really think he's a good fit for the 3-4, that doesn't mean he'd suck just that I don't think he'd live up to the pick.

We're going to need a NT above all else for that kind of defense though.

Didn't you post some time ago, when Pioli was first hired, that you had a friend who said something along the lines of, "Expect Raji to be the pick."?

philfree 03-01-2009 10:07 AM

I like what i've seen of Raji and i'd be fine with him as our pick.


PhilFree:arrow:

Bwana 03-01-2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5542530)
I don't really think he's a good fit for the 3-4, that doesn't mean he'd suck just that I don't think he'd live up to the pick.

We're going to need a NT above all else for that kind of defense though.

Well, the one fact that is hard to dispute, is the fact that we still need lots of help on both O and D. The OL still has a lot of holes on the other side of the ball as well. As stated in another post, if we go into the season with the O line we have right now, we are going to get our new QB killed. It doesn't do any good to have a top notch QB if they can't protect him. It's hard to throw if you have DL hanging on you, or you're laying on your back looking up through your facemask at two 300+ pound DL laying on top of you.


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