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Micjones 03-01-2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5544268)
the post was wrong it was actually dan orlovsky a qb, but i was worried i would like to sign igor

He'd be a nice addition now that Canty's off the market.
Sign him up!

SAUTO 03-01-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5544276)
ROFL

hey it wasnt MY post:D

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5544256)
Hardly anybody remembers that. I mentioned it the morning Whitlock's story came out, as precedence for underhanded contract 'negotiation'. He made a move to negotiate through the media a few days ago and it blew up in his face.

But he's a good guy, so it can't possibly be that.




As for getting a 1st round pick for a guard, well, good luck for that. You're not going to get that for any guard, much less an older one whose play has already declined.

Exactly.

I'm just glad the days of the players drinking wine and eating dinner with the coaches is OVER.

Time for some real football coaches.

Haley his the nail on the head: Waters was on 2-14 football. Get over yourself.

booger 03-01-2009 04:55 PM

Michael Lombardi nailed the comparasson of Taylor to that of Derrick Deese. Deese was an undersized tackle who was a very good pass blocker but could be overpowered in the run game. Herb looked a bit bigger last year and could add more. I think giving him his shot at G would be good for him. As long as he has a good T beside him and a strong C. He could slide out to T when needed like Shields did.

De La Puente is a G but more of a C size wise. Richardson needs only to toughen up, in the weight room and mentally he needs to realize if he wants it he can be a starter, just get his mind into it. He needs to aquire a mean streak which isn't very easy to do. He may just be what he is. I don't have any hope that McIntosh will excell at RT again and think he is to soft to play G. I imagine he gets cut but for now is an insurance policy. Jones is a turd, but a FA turd at that. I liked what i saw ( didn't expect much ) from Wade Smith. But that was the spread and he is only a backup for all 3 inside spots.

Add in Rudy who got the 2nd rd RFA tender and hopefully a move to RG. I think he is a Pioli type of Lineman from looking at the pats roster, he fits in size wise.

I think Jake Grove is a FA.

this guy http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/407201 Elton Brown has been a bust in AZ but Haley would have an idea if he was worth a short term Prove it contract or not.

Mr. Krab 03-01-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 5544246)
Well, do we trade him, draft Monroe, and move Albert to guard? (Just asking; I'm no fan of that idea)

If we move albert, won't it just be to the other guard spot? Why move him at all, just draft a tackle and put them at RT. We have other guys that can play inside like Taylor and Niswanger.

Chiefshrink 03-01-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5544084)
A part of me thinks LJ is the least expendable of the three in the minds of Chiefs brass. Not sure why I feel that way... I just think he's gonna be here when the season opens.

It's called $$ that nobody else is willing to pick up especially now that they have to worry about off the field antics as well. Were stuck with him:grr:

CaliforniaChief 03-01-2009 04:58 PM

Now that some time has elapsed since Whitlock published Brian Waters' diary, I've come to a different conclusion about what ought to be done in the situation.

I think you work it out and keep him here. Or at least come to a point where it looks like you've worked it out and THEN move him to another team.

We've got so many holes in this roster, particularly if we're moving to 3-4 base defense, that it would be nice to not have to worry about the left side of the O-line at least for this year. Unlike LJ, I don't believe Waters would do anything less than his best if he's retained. These are all men and I'm sure they can work it out in a way that helps Waters move forward and the leadership save the reputation as a hard-ass organization.

Now, if Buffalo or someone else blew us away with an offer, that's a different story. But my hope is that they can work through it so that we have one less roster spot to fill this year. And with Cassel back there, I'm pretty sure Pioli's going to make sure the left side of the line is fortified.

BTW along those lines, whoever mentioned moving Albert from LT is crazy.

Tribal Warfare 03-01-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5544209)
Herb Taylor

Richardson possibly

SAUTO 03-01-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5544301)
Richardson possibly

should be our RT

Micjones 03-01-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 5544293)
It's called $$ that nobody else is willing to pick up especially now that they have to worry about off the field antics as well. Were stuck with him:grr:

Yep, I think so.
If Chiefs brass can get through to him and get his head together he'd be a valuable part of this offense.

HC_Chief 03-01-2009 05:00 PM

A 3rd would be great!

booger 03-01-2009 05:00 PM

A couple years ago guys like Eric Steinbach got huge money deals for G's. I was just an example of a poor FA class and teams overpaying.

Carl had guys like Tony and LJ who were like his sons. But guys like Trich and waters were his guys who "got it" whatever that ment. He always pumped up Trich as a future director of player development. Which could be true. Tony is a good guy and a true pro. He also got waters to think he was kissing his ass when waters acted as his own agent and signed and negotiated a bad contract. In addition to other offseasons with BW being unhappy with $$$ last year Waters was asked somewhere about moving to C with Weigmann not coming back and insuated sure he would do it but want money as an incentive for doing so. Maybe he should call up Will Shields and get his agent Joe Linta's number and ask him for some representation.

Tribal Warfare 03-01-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5544305)
should be our RT

I really believe Herman" House" Johnson will be drafted for that position.

the Talking Can 03-01-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5544231)
POS Welbourn was traded for a 2nd and 4th, but teams aren't that loose with draft choices any more.

holy **** i forgot about that....more than we paid for a QB and a lb...


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nevermind, the info was wrong

SAUTO 03-01-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5544320)
I really believe Herman" House" Johnson will be drafted for that position.

maybe if so then yeah richardson needs to get his head straight and take a spot


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