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doomy3 05-05-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5742601)
You quoted the important part of the post, yet you didn't seem to get it. Once again; in retrospect, we had no chance in hell of signing either of them once Pioli became GM, because his mind was already made up long before the combine, and BEFORE the Cassel trade*

*That's the important part.

Well, the combine wouldn't have helped Sanchez's case at all, and since Stafford didn't even throw, I'm not sure how it would have helped him either, although that doesn't matter because we couldn't have drafted him anyway.

You are right though, I do believe Pioli had his mind made up based on college gametape, and/or lack thereof in the case of Sanchez, and made his mind up that Cassel was the best option between the two well before the combine. Most people on here knew that when he traded for him. You, however, chose to put your fingers in your ears and stomp around on the ground like a jilted child.

bdeg 05-05-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5742601)
You quoted the important part of the post, yet you didn't seem to get it. Once again; in retrospect, we had no chance in hell of signing either of them once Pioli became GM, because his mind was already made up long before the combine, and BEFORE the Cassel trade*

*That's the important part.

you don't know that he didn't wait to make the trade until his scouts told him Sanchez wasn't worth the #3. who knows when(if) what was

entirely possible they just didn't like him

Chiefnj2 05-05-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5742627)
Well, the combine wouldn't have helped Sanchez's case at all, and since Stafford didn't even throw, I'm not sure how it would have helped him either, although that doesn't matter because we couldn't have drafted him anyway.

You are right though, I do believe Pioli had his mind made up based on college gametape, and/or lack thereof in the case of Sanchez, and made his mind up that Cassel was the best option between the two well before the combine. Most people on here knew that when he traded for him. You, however, chose to put your fingers in your ears and stomp around on the ground like a jilted child.

Cassel hasn't signed a long term deal!! KC could still make a play for Sanchez.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5742627)
Well, the combine wouldn't have helped Sanchez's case at all, and since Stafford didn't even throw, I'm not sure how it would have helped him either, although that doesn't matter because we couldn't have drafted him anyway.

You are right though, I do believe Pioli had his mind made up based on college gametape, and/or lack thereof in the case of Sanchez, and made his mind up that Cassel was the best option between the two well before the combine. Most people on here knew that when he traded for him. You, however, chose to put your fingers in your ears and stomp around on the ground like a jilted child.

So now you're going to tell me that you, unlike everyone else, just KNEW it was Cassel for sure the instant Pioli touched down at KCI with contract signing pen in hand?
You just KNEW, unlike everyone else, that "the deal was done" before the Pats slapped the tag on him?

This is what you're telling me?

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5742665)
Cassel hasn't signed a long term deal!! KC could still make a play for Sanchez.

:spock:

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5742659)
you don't know that he didn't wait to make the trade until his scouts told him Sanchez wasn't worth the #3. who knows when(if) what was

entirely possible they just didn't like him

We would have had to take it up the ass courtesy of STL to get Sanchez at three, so yes; that's EXACTLY what I'm saying.
If Pioli didn't have first crack/best shot at Cassel, Pioli does not become GM.

So write it in to the Chiefs History Book and close the chapter, because it's the truth.

doomy3 05-05-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5742673)
So now you're going to tell me that you, unlike everyone else, just KNEW it was Cassel for sure the instant Pioli touched down at KCI with contract signing pen in hand?
You just KNEW, unlike everyone else, that "the deal was done" before the Pats slapped the tag on him?

This is what you're telling me?

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. However, once Pioli traded for Cassel, I thought he made it crystal clear that he had chosen Cassel over Sanchez, like most any intelligent person would. You, and others, tried to convince everyone that because Cassel hadn't been signed to a long term deal, we would probably draft Sanchez. Pioli likes Cassel better than Sanchez. Period.

doomy3 05-05-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5742719)
We would have had to take it up the ass courtesy of STL to get Sanchez at three, so yes; that's EXACTLY what I'm saying.
If Pioli didn't have first crack/best shot at Cassel, Pioli does not become GM.

So write it in to the Chiefs History Book and close the chapter, because it's the truth.

This is ridiculous. I'm sure the Rams would have been thrilled to take a deal with the Jets for a bunch of castoffs like the Browns did. The Browns gave away the pick. Most likely because we drafted the guy they wanted, but they gave the pick away. The Rams would have NEVER made a deal like that.

Pioli Zombie 05-05-2009 08:48 PM

Sanchez Messiah. Name above all names. Blessed redeemer New York Jet.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5742731)
This is ridiculous. I'm sure the Rams would have been thrilled to take a deal with the Jets for a bunch of castoffs like the Browns did. The Browns gave away the pick. Most likely because we drafted the guy they wanted, but they gave the pick away. The Rams would have NEVER made a deal like that.

The Rams would have TOTALLY held is ass hostage. But don't take my word for it, here's the post that convinced me:

(First, I raised your exact point)
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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots
Never say never, but I have a hard time believing the Rams would have had the balls to make a move. They wanted their boy, just like Detroit, and did what everyone thought they would.
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Originally Posted by SBK:

They were trying to trade out of 2 on draft day. Nobody wanted to be in the top 5, the only team that was willing to take it up the ol poop shute was the Brownies to get out of there.

Think about it, if we didn't have Cassel who would we have been picking? Would the NFL believe that Pioli was going to hitch his wagon to Tyler Thigpen?

The whole world would have known we were taking Sanchez at 3, so anyone that wanted him would have been talking to the Rams. That would have to be us as well, as we would have known that we were screwed.

I wanted Sanchez bad, but seeing the play that he got, and watching the Jets trade up from 17 told me all I needed to know. Drafting @3 Pioli made the best move he could, which was trading our 2 for Cassel.

Looks pretty ****ing cut and dried to me.

bdeg 05-05-2009 08:49 PM

ROR's next nick=NewJet???

by the way the rams wouldn't have been able to do anything. it's all a matter of whether or not Pioli calls their bluff, which both the Jets and Redskins did. I have a feeling Pioli would've too.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5742760)
Sanchez Messiah. Name above all names. Blessed redeemer New York Jet.
Posted via Mobile Device

Hallelujah and Bless You my child. :thumb:

kcfanXIII 05-05-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5739682)
I mean you thought it was bad with Brett Favre. I gaurantee that opening week the media will make the Sanchez debut the arrival of the Christ child.
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wait, if curry is jesus, and sanchez is the christ child, one must be a false profit. there can't be two jesuses. thats how wars are started.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5742769)
ROR's next nick=NewJet???

by the way the rams wouldn't have been able to do anything. it's all a matter of whether or not Pioli calls their bluff, which both the Jets and Redskins did. I have a feeling Pioli would've too.

Ruh????

Whatever. Pioli = Cassel or no leaving New England. Deal with it.

bdeg 05-05-2009 08:54 PM

the idea that the trade was worked out pre-departure is ridiculous.

pioli was guaranteed nothing.


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