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Micjones 07-06-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5882617)
Do you have kids? If so, would you let them play "sleep over" at this regressed 10-year-old's house? Why or why not?

Yes, I have an 11-year old son.

I wouldn't allow my son to "sleep over" at your house KCF, but that hardly makes you a pedophile. It just makes me a very protective father who is unwilling to put my son in potentially dangerous situations...unnecessarily.

Micjones 07-06-2009 12:22 PM

Does it matter to anyone that Janet Arvizo approached Larry Feldman (Jordan Chandler's attorney in the 1993 case) BEFORE going to the authorities? Does it matter to anyone that this woman was convicted of welfare fraud? Does it matter that the boy's testimony contradicted prior statements that he made to law enforcement officials? Does it matter to anyone that Gavin's mother Janet concocted a story about having been viciously beaten in 1998 by JC Penney security after being detained on suspicion of shoplifting (that INCLUDED Gavin himself)? An accusation that two years later was amended to include her "having been fondled for more than 7 minutes". Does it matter to anyone that she received a $137,000 settlement by Penney because of it?

Nah...

Facts tend to function as annoying speed bumps to misguided rants.
So people tend to just...drive around them.

gblowfish 07-06-2009 12:23 PM

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DeezNutz 07-06-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5882755)
Yes, I have an 11-year old son.

I wouldn't allow my son to "sleep over" at your house KCF, but that hardly makes you a pedophile. It just makes me a very protective father who is unwilling to put my son in potentially dangerous situations...unnecessarily.

KCF?

Of course, you, like other sane person, would use some common sense. It's a situation that, at best, is disconcerting, but, most likely, is more troubling than this.

Chiefnj2 07-06-2009 12:40 PM

Based on what I've read, as long as Michael was paying the bills the Chandler family didn't make any accusations. Once the money stopped the trouble began.

Micjones 07-06-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5882800)
KCF?

Sorry, I was in the middle of multi-quoting a response and got confused.

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Of course, you, like other sane person, would use some common sense. It's a situation that, at best, is disconcerting, but, most likely, is more troubling than this.
I just find it disheartening that people have convicted him in the court of public opinion despite the man-sized holes in the two prior accusations.

Micjones 07-06-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5882822)
Based on what I've read, as long as Michael was paying the bills the Chandler family didn't make any accusations. Once the money stopped the trouble began.

The EXACT same situation occurred with the Arvizo family.
Mike was footing medical bills for Gavin.

DeezNutz 07-06-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5882785)
Does it matter to anyone that Janet Arvizo approached Larry Feldman (Jordan Chandler's attorney in the 1993 case) BEFORE going to the authorities? Does it matter to anyone that this woman was convicted of welfare fraud? Does it matter that the boy's testimony contradicted prior statements that he made to law enforcement officials? Does it matter to anyone that Gavin's mother Janet concocted a story about having been viciously beaten in 1998 by JC Penney security after being detained on suspicion of shoplifting (that INCLUDED Gavin himself)? An accusation that two years later included her "having been fondled for more than 7 minutes". Does it matter to anyone that she received a $137,000 settlement by Penney because of it?

Nah...

Facts tend to function as annoying speed bumps to misguided rants.
So people tend to just...drive around them.

I always thought the mic part of your username stood for something else. Good to know you're ok, MJ. :)

DeezNutz 07-06-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5882824)
Sorry, I was in the middle of multi-quoting a response and got confused.



I just find it disheartening that people have convicted him in the court of public opinion despite the man-sized holes in the two prior accusations.

ROFL

Interesting phrase, given the subject matter.

Micjones 07-06-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5882832)
ROFL

Interesting phrase, given the subject matter.

ROFL

RJ 07-06-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5882137)
I'm speaking of something more ... exotic, Mr. Groves. Preferring to be bound hand and foot with big girl panty hose and having swizzle sticks jammed up his ass while wearing wax lips and a beret. Stuff like that.

FAX


That's not normal?

I mean, I'm just askin'.

Is it the wax lips?

BigRock 07-06-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5882785)
Facts tend to function as annoying speed bumps to misguided rants. So people tend to just...drive around them.

So are you denying that there's numerous facts to support the notion that Michael Jackson was molesting boys? Or are you just driving around those annoying speed bumps?

DaFace 07-06-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5882824)
I just find it disheartening that people have convicted him in the court of public opinion despite the man-sized holes in the two prior accusations.

This case is of course much more visible than most, but I'd imagine that the phenomenon is true of nearly all accused sex offenders. It's such a strong societal taboo that even being accused of it is enough to sway most opinions toward the negative.

Chiefnj2 07-06-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 5883409)
So are you denying that there's numerous facts to support the notion that Michael Jackson was molesting boys? Or are you just driving around those annoying speed bumps?

What are the numerous facts supporting the notion he was guilty?

Micjones 07-06-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 5883409)
So are you denying that there's numerous facts to support the notion that Michael Jackson was molesting boys? Or are you just driving around those annoying speed bumps?

Are you waiting for someone else to present those facts or were you just bluffing?


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