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Coogs 08-16-2009 10:26 AM

That 3rd down play by the Texans in the middle of the Stu Stram interview must have been the 2-4-5 set we have been hearing about. Tyler was the RDT, and McGee was the LDT. Both did a nice job with their double teams as McGee held his ground, and Tyler moved his two guys back. The Texans ran up the middle for 5 yard gain or so, but had it been a pass, Tyler was making a good push up the middle.

Buehler445 08-16-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5977073)
I thought Bradley made some nice catches.

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5977075)
Mark Bradley played pretty well, also.

Repost :D

Actually I'm really happy that you agree with me.

RedThat 08-16-2009 10:28 AM

I am confident in Herb's ability to pass block, not sure about run blocking. To be a RT, you have to be a road grader Im not so sure I see him as that.

Coogs 08-16-2009 10:29 AM

They ran the 2-4-5 on the next 3rd and 7 as well. Don't know if we ran this defense earlier in the game or not, but I just happened to notice it on those two occasions.

RedThat 08-16-2009 10:32 AM

We have 2 players on this team that i and probably many others feel confident about, Mark Bradley, and Mike Brown.

If those two guys are healthy, clearly, they are better then what we currently have starting at those positions.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-16-2009 10:32 AM

Didn't get to watch the game last night but been watching the replay on NFLN.

Offense was never on the same page. Very vanilla playcalling.

MC had some good throws. He looked fairly well in this new setup given the rainy conditions. He just needs WRs to catch is passes.

Bowe, Bradley, and Copper made some solid catches. I think Bowe got the message. He made some great catches in the rain. He needs to be on the starting offense next week.

Running game moved the ball.

Our Defense looked the most improved since last year. Houston* couldn't run the ball against them. Some sloppy plays earned the D gassers during practice.

Look forward to seeing this team next week in person.

Grade C+/B-

Buehler445 08-16-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 5977086)
I am confident in Herb's ability to pass block, not sure about run blocking. To be a RT, you have to be a road grader Im not so sure I see him as that.

He's better than McIntosh at moving people.

Buehler445 08-16-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 5977101)
We have 2 players on this team that i and probably many others feel confident about, Mark Bradley, and Mike Brown.

If those two guys are healthy, clearly, they are better then what we currently have starting at those positions.

Brown did nothing.

I was much more impressed with Pollard and Page. There were no missed tackles that I saw. Pollard was limping hard and still was getting his nose in there.

milkman 08-16-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 5977086)
I am confident in Herb's ability to pass block, not sure about run blocking. To be a RT, you have to be a road grader Im not so sure I see him as that.

We all understand that you want a road grader at RT, but at this point we don't have that.

Herb Taylor, right now is more effective, both as a run blocker and in pass protection, than Damion McSuckoff.

You go with the best that you have, even if he isn't ideal for the position.

RedThat 08-16-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5977110)
Brown did nothing.

I was much more impressed with Pollard and Page. There were no missed tackles that I saw. Pollard was limping hard and still was getting his nose in there.

i think Pollard will improve. Im not a big fan of page. He takes a lot of bad angles and whiffs a lot of tackles. That was the case last year, his athletic ability and ability to cover ground is awesome, but to miss tackles and take bad angles are whats preventing him from being a really good safety.

milkman 08-16-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5977110)
Brown did nothing.

I was much more impressed with Pollard and Page. There were no missed tackles that I saw. Pollard was limping hard and still was getting his nose in there.

This.

Buehler445 08-16-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5977115)
We all understand that you want a road grader at RT, but at this point we don't have that.

Herb Taylor, right now is more effective, both as a run blocker and in pass protection, than Damion McSuckoff.

You go with the best that you have, even if he isn't ideal for the position.

That's pretty much the way I feel and have been arguing about since last season.

I am disappointed that they had to move Richardson to LT.

RedThat 08-16-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5977115)
We all understand that you want a road grader at RT, but at this point we don't have that.

Herb Taylor, right now is more effective, both as a run blocker and in pass protection, than Damion McSuckoff.

You go with the best that you have, even if he isn't ideal for the position.

thats true. im surprised he is not starting when clearly he should be.

Buehler445 08-16-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 5977118)
i think Pollard will improve. Im not a big fan of page. He takes a lot of bad angles and whiffs a lot of tackles. That was the case last year, his athletic ability and ability to cover ground is awesome, but to miss tackles and take bad angles are whats preventing him from being a really good safety.

I understand that. But I also get tired of hearing that he is trash and that Brown is head and shoulders above P&P. It may end up that way, but it was not evident on the field yesterday.

EDIT: Note that I am not suggesting you are one of the empty cans that endlessly hates on P&P. I just thought P&P had a nice game.

RedThat 08-16-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5977124)
I understand that. But I also get tired of hearing that he is trash and that Brown is head and shoulders above P&P. It may end up that way, but it was not evident on the field yesterday.

Page and pollard have to show consistency. Thats the key right there.

if they do that, they'll be the starters. if not, mike brown can come in play...I just want some stability at the safety position. We haven't had that in a long time.


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