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luv 08-18-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 5984266)
Croyle sucks cuz he's also inaccurate and on 3rd down he won't even throw it to the sticks.

He drastically improved that in the short time he has played. The latter was a matter of play-calling, IMO.

Micjones 08-18-2009 10:47 PM

This is silly...
Cassel's your starter...with a bullet.

Titty Meat 08-18-2009 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5984289)
He drastically improved that in the short time he has played. The latter was a matter of play-calling, IMO.

He did it the other night too. Wrght was able to run after the catch though.

luv 08-18-2009 10:48 PM

I'm not saying anyone is pushing Cassel. I'm just saying that Croyle doesn't suck. Thought I'd make myself clear on that.

MoreLemonPledge 08-18-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5984308)
I'm not saying anyone is pushing Cassel. I'm just saying that Croyle doesn't suck. Thought I'd make myself clear on that.

He doesn't suck. Never has. Just can't stay healthy.

KcMizzou 08-18-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 5984310)
He doesn't suck. Never has. Just can't stay healthy.

Yeah. Honestly, I feel bad for the guy. Not his fault, really.

luv 08-18-2009 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5984314)
Yeah. Honestly, I feel bad for the guy. Not his fault, really.

Exactly. If we could focus on getting offensive linemen in there instead of trying to make a point to Bowe, I think we'd be better off.

Titty Meat 08-18-2009 10:54 PM

6 Td's 8 picks and 0 wins as a starter. I guess he'd be an ok backup but these people saying he should be the starter shhhh.

KcMizzou 08-18-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5984316)
Exactly. If we could focus on getting offensive linemen in there instead of trying to make a point to Bowe, I think we'd be better off.

Eh... A better line won't change that fact that he's fragile. Quarterbacks get hit. There's no avoiding it.

I wish the guy the best, and I'd be thrilled to see him succeed as a starter, but the fact is... right now... you can't depend on him. Sucks, because the kid does seem to have talent.

mikey23545 08-19-2009 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5983997)
Hiring the "hot candidate" didn't work for the other team in town so....Personally Pioli wasn't my first choice so hey we'll see I guess.

Still can't believe they passed you over, huh?....

Quesadilla Joe 08-19-2009 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 5983811)
if croyle wins the starters job id like everyone to know i led a good life with few regrets...

I don't see why it would be a bad thing if Haley starts the best QB. If Croyle is better than Cassel he should start.

I think Orton will have a big year, but if Simms beats him out and plays at a high level during the regular season I will be happy with it.

JohnnyV13 08-19-2009 03:28 AM

What I don't understand is why Croyle hasn't gotten bigger knowing his durability weakness.

Heck, I'm a really small guy. I weighed 121lbs when I graduated high school. Two years later, I weighed 171 because I worked very hard in the gym.

Hell, I could gain more muscle mass if I were a professional athlete. And, I'm not doing anything exotic with supplements.

I understand he's in an NFL conditioning program and perhaps he's just a rather thin guy who's already maxed out his body, but if I were him, I'd be juiced to the gills with HgH. Its on the banned substance list, but they don't test for it. Of course, I wouldn't use mega doses because that can be very bad if you have unknown tumors: in that case, HgH stimulates tumor growth.

SenselessChiefsFan 08-19-2009 06:35 AM

I think Croyle has one of the five best arms in the NFL. He has the kind of arm that is truly impressive in person. He has a better arm that the beloved Sanchez. He has a better arm than Alex Smith. He has a better arm than Leinart. He has an arm comparable to Cutler, or even Elway or Favre in their prime. Not quite as good, but would definitely give those guys a run for their money.

I think Croyle has a ton of leadership. I think Croyle has a ton of mobility.

About the only things that Croyle doesn't have are experience and durability.

Here lies the problem.... he won't get much experience if he can't last more than a half of a football game....

Some of it is just bad luck.... and bad offensive lines.

In reality, he is too tough for his own good. He will stand in the pocket in the face of a strong rush to deliver the ball. He will run for yardage and take the hits.

The guy has come back from so many injuries. He is like a boxer who just keeps getting up.... when so many of us... (Me included),by now would have just hung em' up.

I admire his resolve. I think it is unfortunate that the most talented QB in Chiefs camp right now is also the one that can't be counted on.

SenselessChiefsFan 08-19-2009 06:41 AM

For the record, Cassel struggled in last year's camp too.

I would be lying if I said it didn't concern me.... but I am not willing to panic just yet.

If Cassel is a bust, I will be more dissapointed in Pioli than anything else. Pioli was with this guy for a few years. I know that you can never 'know' how a guy will respond to a new situation, new contract, and being 'the' guy.... but the main reason I supported the move for Cassel was because Pioli and Johs McDaniels both really wanted the kid.

That spoke volumes to me. I will be dissapointed in Pioli if this kid doesn't work out.

EyePod 08-19-2009 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5983800)
They were talking about this on 610 today with Teicher.....they were all saying that Cassel hasn't looked good since the 1st week of camp and since the scrimmage he's gone downhill.

I would love Brodie (and I think anyone else would) if he could just stay goddamned healthy.

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5983805)
This is just making your day....now you can bash all THREE Chiefs quarterbacks for some reason.

SANCHEZ!

I got sick of the Sanchez bs too, but Mecca was actually juts relaying news. He didn't even mention an opinion. Who would you rather Mecca, Croyle or Cassel? I mean, there's so much money invested in Cassel right now... I wish we didn't sign him to a bigger deal. I'd rather we had just pay him the 1 year and see how it panned out...

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5984004)
Oh god not this argument.

Really there were plenty of people on this forum who preferred other guys to Pioli.

I never heard of those people, and I can't see a reason (other than hating anything from Patriot Nation) for not wanting the best available.


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