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doomy3 09-20-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6093554)
well, apparently there is a new definition of stopping the run, or stopping the pass


if a team scores on a single run play, then they by definition were successful running the ball that game....stats are irrelevant

same for passing


so next time journalist or a poster says, "we held them to 3 yards a carry and only 70 yards..we stopped the run"....you tell them they are wrong, because any score invalidates it....


lots of people have made this mistake over the years....like everyone, in fact...because it never occurred to them to think of such a stupid excuse....


No. This only works half the time.

See, if they would have run for 150 yards today, but we would have held them out of the end zone, we would have been gashed, and there would have been some kind of playcalling reason for why they didn't score. Certainly not because we stopped them. I honestly believe in order for people to be happy with the unit, we must hold the other team under 100 yards and shut them out. Because holding them to 170 total yards and 13 points certainly is inexcusable.

Halfcan 09-20-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093570)
NOTHING WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE INABILITY OF THE CHIEFS TO STOP THE RUN WHEN IT MATTERED MOST AND NOT JUST JESUS JACKSON, YOU DUMB ****!!

ROFLROFL

wow

munkey 09-20-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6093562)
The Steelers kicker has done his job today because he made both of his extra points. Those two missed FG's are irrelevant.


STOP IT...For F(*KS sake...good lord. You're comparing a Kicker's stats to the rest of the team? :shake:

doomy3 09-20-2009 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093570)
NOTHING WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE INABILITY OF THE CHIEFS TO STOP THE RUN WHEN IT MATTERED MOST AND NOT JUST JESUS JACKSON, YOU DUMB ****!!

This thread is about Tyson Jackson, and whether he had a good game or not. But, I guess that is irrelevant.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-20-2009 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6093486)
really, 1 5 yard run means we didn't stop the run?

every play on that series was a pass......they won because of passing

this is the dishonest argument you are really going to make? that 1 play means we didn't stop the run, even though we clearly did?


70 yards on 21 carries isn't stopping the run, if one run is a td


holy shit

Jesus Christ, if Oakland wanted to run the ball, they would have. I love how Larry has 24 for 78 and he looks like "new man" or like the '05 Larry, but the Raiders, who came out passing rather than running, and constantly put themselves in 3rd and forever because of it, run for nearly the same YPC and we stonewalled them.

The fact of the matter is this:

Teams get most of their yards running on carries 20-40.
Cable ****ed his own team through dipshitted playcalling.
We never had to defend more than one or two runs per drive because of said dipshitted playcalling.

We didn't stop shit, they stopped themselves.

This is about as funny as some ****s arguing that we stopped the Ravens in '03 when they kept stepping on their dicks in goal to go situations.

Halfcan 09-20-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6093577)
No. This only works half the time.

See, if they would have run for 150 yards today, but we would have held them out of the end zone, we would have been gashed, and there would have been some kind of playcalling reason for why they didn't score. Certainly not because we stopped them. I honestly believe in order for people to be happy with the unit, we must hold the other team under 100 yards and shut them out. Because holding them to 170 total yards and 13 points certainly is inexcusable.

I never said we didnt shut the running game down-but the Faders did not try to pound it on us either-which was dumb on their part. They put themselves in a lot of 3rd and long.


My point was-that for being a #3 pick and the highest paid player on the D-he should have more than one ****ing tackle.

tk13 09-20-2009 05:05 PM

Maybe we should start placing bets on which week Hamas' brain actually explodes.

Halfcan 09-20-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by munkey (Post 6093580)
STOP IT...For F(*KS sake...good lord. You're comparing a Kicker's stats to the rest of the team? :shake:

I think he was being sarcastic-lol

doomy3 09-20-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6093586)
I never said we didnt shut the running game down-but the Faders did not try to pound it on us either-which was dumb on their part. They put themselves in a lot of 3rd and long.


My point was-that for being a #3 pick and the highest paid player on the D-he should have more than one ****ing tackle.

They ran the ball on over 50% of their plays. Not that facts are worth anything in this discussion.

munkey 09-20-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6093583)
Jesus Christ, if Oakland wanted to run the ball, they would have. I love how Larry has 24 for 78 and he looks like "new man" or like the '05 Larry, but the Raiders, who came out passing rather than running, and constantly put themselves in 3rd and forever because of it, run for nearly the same YPC and we stonewalled them.

The fact of the matter is this:

Teams get most of their yards running on carries 20-40.
Cable ****ed his own team through dipshitted playcalling.
We never had to defend more than one or two runs per drive because of said dipshitted playcalling.

We didn't stop shit, they stopped themselves.

This is about as funny as some ****s arguing that we stopped the Ravens in '03 when they kept stepping on their dicks in goal to go situations.

So the Raiders basically made our defense look good because of coaching...

Same can be said about our defensive coaching on the last the drive the raiders had....

My point is your point is completely pointless...It's a game and it really doesn't matter until the fat lady sings. Hindsight is 20/20

the Talking Can 09-20-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6093594)
They ran the ball on over 50% of their plays. Not that facts are worth anything in this discussion.

they aren't


people are hell bent on making a point, facts are irrelevant....

munkey 09-20-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 6093591)
I think he was being sarcastic-lol


I hope so...

Halfcan 09-20-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6093594)
They ran the ball on over 50% of their plays. Not that facts are worth anything in this discussion.

The fact is that Action Jackson signed a 57 million dollar contract with 31 mil up front and he had ZERO sacks or tackles last week and 1 lousy tackle this week.

Halfcan 09-20-2009 05:15 PM

At this rate he will have 8 tackles in 16 games.

Like I said Mecca called this one.

LaChapelle 09-20-2009 05:16 PM

The canary died, who farted


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