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Reerun_KC 10-07-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6148003)
to be fair, i dont think jesus christ himself could forsee our line being THIS bad.

Why would Aaron Curry give a shit about our OL anyway?

Reerun_KC 10-07-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6148006)
I guess 2008 Chiefs games were blacked out in Jesus' viewing area?

He lives in the Dallas market, Just ask Jerry Jones...

Reerun_KC 10-07-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 6148091)
I think people are just frustrated. The Jets might have won this deal but I don't think Pioli should be burned at the cross for not making it. I don't know, it's just not that bad. I wasn't blown away by it. Maybe it will be in the end, who knows.

I just don't think we're in any position to be trading multiple draft picks away. Especially when there's a chance we might have the first pick in every round. Unless you find a really good offensive lineman or safety or something. But even then, it might not be worth it. I'm tired of everybody building this team from outside-in... Carl did the same thing. We need an offensive line, a nose tackle, MLB's, safeties.

Does anyone even know if Pioli and Co actually tried to deal or not? or even inquired about it?

Anyone?

DaneMcCloud 10-07-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 6147969)
obviously rhetoric is not one of your strong points.

what we were asking for was...change. we got it. now does that preclude questioning? no. but the amount of bitching and back and forth (trade gonzo! I miss gonzo! trade JA! I miss JA. draft! free agents! character! why can't eric hick go to the lockeroom! bryalon edwards?) going on is pretty comical.

we have to be patient, and hope SP has this under control soon. quite frankly the team was a tire fire when he arrived... it is gonna take awhile. this team is supposed to be built from the bottom up... lets see what they can do with a some time... again, the losing is painful - i understand.

Bullshit.

This isn't politics. No one was asking for "change". People were asking for IMPROVEMENT.

Every team across the league has improved this offseason, save for the Chiefs. EVERY ****ING TEAM.

Denver hired a new coach and GM, have seven new starters on defense and are the top ranked D in the league. Ask yourself: Why couldn't that be the Chiefs?

The offensive line has been THE worst in the league since 2007 (and it was close in 2006). Since 2006, the have had injuries occur to ALL FOUR STARTING QB's! Shouldn't that be a ****ing RED FLAG?

All Pioli did is sign a 33 year old never was in Mike Goof. What did that get him? An injured $63 million dollar QB in preseason game THREE. And he still hasn't recovered.

Also, do you understand that the Chiefs have now spent their last three TOP PICKS, round one in 2008, round one in 2009 and round three in 2009 on FIVE TECH DEFENSIVE ENDS? That's not only unheard of, it's a complete waste of opportunity.

What's even WORSE is that Pioli's next move was not to address the offensive line but to draft a CORNERBACK!! WHAT? What's wrong with Flowers & Carr from the 2008 draft? Oh yeah, NOTHING!

This has been one gigantic cluster**** from day one.

tk13 10-07-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6148116)
Does anyone even know if Pioli and Co actually tried to deal or not? or even inquired about it?

Anyone?


I don't care if they did. The Jets don't need many other pieces. Actually if they win the Super Bowl in a year or two Mangini really should get a lot of credit for building that team. Including this trade, haha. The Jets might be one or two players away. If it was a single pick I would've jumped on it, but if Edwards performs well it'll be a 2nd and a 5th. The way we're playing, our 2nd might end up being like a late 1st. That's a tough call.

milkman 10-07-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6147947)
I remember Pioli saying something of the line as "If our QB works out excellent, but I'm not afraid of admitting a mistake if he doesn't"

When Haley makes a change at QB, I'll believe it.

Until then it's nothing more than lip service.

milkman 10-07-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6148006)
I guess 2008 Chiefs games were blacked out in Jesus' viewing area?

What, no Sunday Ticket in heaven?

DaneMcCloud 10-07-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 6148091)
I think people are just frustrated. The Jets might have won this deal but I don't think Pioli should be burned at the cross for not making it. I don't know, it's just not that bad. I wasn't blown away by it. Maybe it will be in the end, who knows.

I just don't think we're in any position to be trading multiple draft picks away. Especially when there's a chance we might have the first pick in every round. Unless you find a really good offensive lineman or safety or something. But even then, it might not be worth it. I'm tired of everybody building this team from outside-in... Carl did the same thing. We need an offensive line, a nose tackle, MLB's, safeties.

This is a supremely flawed argument.

The 2009 draft was loaded with offensive lineman and skill position talent. The 2010 draft will be loaded with defensive talent. You should not draft against the board, but since Pioli did it in 2009, I guess nothing can be unexpected.

The bottom line is that the Chiefs had the picks to make this deal happen. They have two second rounders due to the Gonzalez trade so their three was expendable and they better have gotten a 5th for Thigpen, otherwise, I'm going to go ****ing apeshit.

Especially if it was Thigpen for Alleman and Nsuckwe.

Reerun_KC 10-07-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6148169)
This is a supremely flawed argument.

The 2009 draft was loaded with offensive lineman and skill position talent. The 2010 draft will be loaded with defensive talent. You should not draft against the board, but since Pioli did it in 2009, I guess nothing can be unexpected.

The bottom line is that the Chiefs had the picks to make this deal happen. They have two second rounders due to the Gonzalez trade so their three was expendable and they better have gotten a 5th for Thigpen, otherwise, I'm going to go ****ing apeshit.

Especially if it was Thigpen for Alleman and Nsuckwe.

So did they or didnt they call and/or make an offer?

The Bad Guy 10-07-2009 10:52 AM

Funniest line from a Jets site:

Move over Dick Clark!! Braylon is dropping the ball this New Years!!

tk13 10-07-2009 10:54 AM

I don't care what kind of talent draft the draft is loaded with. Whatever kind of talent is in the draft, we probably need it. Because we sure don't have it now, haha. We could use a real NT, four LB's, and two safeties.

DaneMcCloud 10-07-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6148172)
So did they or didnt they call and/or make an offer?

Why the hell are you asking me? I'm in Hollywood, not Kansas City.

How would I know?

Especially considering it's Fort ****ing Arrowhead One now.

Sure-Oz 10-07-2009 10:56 AM

LMFAO espn having herm breakdown the jets trade saying they got a big play reciever and they are showing highlights of braylon dropping passes while he is saying that, great job production crew

DaneMcCloud 10-07-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 6148187)
I don't care what kind of talent draft the draft is loaded with. Whatever kind of talent is in the draft, we probably need it. Because we sure don't have it now, haha. We could use a real NT, four LB's, and two safeties.

Dude, just stop.

The Chiefs need EVERYTHING other than QB, DE and CB.

That leaves 17 starting positions and 23 backup positions that are needed.

This ****ing roster sucks, which is clearly evident in this non-competitive 0-4 start, especially after 6 wins in the prior 26 games.

teedubya 10-07-2009 10:57 AM

So, now... I guess the Chiefs will probably draft 3rd, right?

Behind Cleveland and Tampa Bay?


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