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the Talking Can 12-21-2009 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6366210)
Well, hell yeah. I'd take Marty Schottenheimer back in an instant at this point.

it's crazy but i would too....

at least he'd leave us better than he found us....he'd get us organized


to the thread, i think there is 0 chance that pioli fires haley so....

SenselessChiefsFan 12-21-2009 06:36 AM

I am typically in favor of giving a coach three years to turn it around unless he loses the team.

I am fine with him being fired. I hope he is fired.

The_Doctor10 12-21-2009 07:42 AM

A tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing...

memyselfI 12-21-2009 07:52 AM

Why?

The unemployment rate is already high enough.

He and his sideline antics provide entertainment value.

His nickname is 'the cleaner' because he cleared out the stadium providing opportunities for many non-season ticket holders to buy tickets.

Bottom line, I got nuthin.

suds79 12-21-2009 08:12 AM

I just am having a hard time buying into the "You've got to give a HC X amount of time" argument when there's such huge upgrades out there.

You wouldn't do that from the player side would you?

I mean if Peyton Manning was somehow a FA, we wouldn't or shouldn't say ah we can't yank the starting job from Matt. He's only had one year.

That's what it's like for the HC class this year. Lots of proven SB talent out there.

Forget what's fair. Just try to upgrade the team as much as possible. Players & coaches.

burt 12-21-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6366209)
I personally don't agree with how Haley calls a game, or how he manages and handles his team.

But I will say this, he's a rookie head coach, and was given a crappy roster from the start. Im not trying to stick up for the guy, all Im trying to say is, it would be hard for most coaches to thrive under those circumstances.

THis

Deberg_1990 12-21-2009 08:43 AM

I'm just scared haley won't change, or is just too stubborn to change. Why take that chance? Cut your losses and move on clark and scott....
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burt 12-21-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6366209)
I personally don't agree with how Haley calls a game, or how he manages and handles his team.

But I will say this, he's a rookie head coach, and was given a crappy roster from the start. Im not trying to stick up for the guy, all Im trying to say is, it would be hard for most coaches to thrive under those circumstances.

and THIS

Dayze 12-21-2009 08:52 AM

I wonder if Clark k nows we lost the game.

Chiefnj2 12-21-2009 08:56 AM

I think the best thing that can happen at this point is for Pioli to sit down with Haley and tell him: (a) he needs to hire a competent OC, (b) he needs to hire a competent QB coach, (c) he's going to treat his coaches with respect and remember they are adults and likely have more coaching experience than he has, and (d) tell him he better be very careful with his hires because they will stay the course with whoever he chooses.

I just think the option of gutting things again at this point will set the team back another 3-4 years. You can't have three separate rebuilds and three different systems over 3 years.

Red Dawg 12-21-2009 09:00 AM

This article was stupid. Coaches are not on the field. Players win games. Give Haley better players and the team will win. His offense in AZ scored alot of points so get him the WR's to run it and we'll be fine. Clancy I don't like, I hope they go get Romey, but he doesn't have good players either.


No coach in the NFL is such a bad teacher that a team would be this bad just because they are the coach. WE NEED GOOD PLAYERS!

Deberg_1990 12-21-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6366654)
I think the best thing that can happen at this point is for Pioli to sit down with Haley and tell him: (a) he needs to hire a competent OC, (b) he needs to hire a competent QB coach, (c) he's going to treat his coaches with respect and remember they are adults and likely have more coaching experience than he has, and (d) tell him he better be very careful with his hires because they will stay the course with whoever he chooses.

I just think the option of gutting things again at this point will set the team back another 3-4 years. You can't have three separate rebuilds and three different systems over 3 years.

This is my argument...how does it set us back 3-4 years? We are already at rock bottom. Haley hasn't improved one area of the team. Not one. There is no justification to keep this turd. We are in the exact same position we were in last year at this time.
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DeezNutz 12-21-2009 09:11 AM

Eddie Kinnison on 810:

"The Chiefs are already on vacation. Todd Haley lost those guys in...maybe...February."

Chiefnj2 12-21-2009 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6366660)
This is my argument...how does it set us back 3-4 years? We are already at rock bottom. Haley hasn't improved one area of the team. Not one. There is no justification to keep this turd. We are in the exact same position we were in last year at this time.
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You are going to sacrifice another draft class (no matter how bad you think it is/was) and put in new schemes for the third time in three years? Plus, look at teams that are continually changing coaches and coordinators - they aren't good. Sadly, I think it's better to stick with what they have to see if they can make it work.

CHIEFS58 12-21-2009 09:33 AM

i swear hes just a darker version of peter king. useless.


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