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Molitoth 12-30-2009 03:53 PM

I'm game for Suh or Berry. If 1 of those 2 guys are sitting at the table and we reach for someone else I will be pissed. (again)

Ralphy Boy 12-30-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6392561)
If you want to bust on the Lions for anything bust on them for making a fan friendly pick instead of the right pick.

They took Charles Rogers over Andre Johnson because he was the hometown kid when Johnson was the better prospect.

I seem to recall them being considered equal and most had them as 1 & 1A. If its that close then I can't blame them for taking a local player.

MTG#10 12-30-2009 06:00 PM

If Suh falls to us we have to take him.

Ralphy Boy 12-30-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6391577)
I'd take Eric Berry. You can not invest another 30 million on this defensive line.

That would be Matt Millen dumb.

Do you not recall Haley/Pioli saying they wanted to build our D-line the way they did in New England? 3 first rounders.

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Originally Posted by swayy07 (Post 6391584)
ok...but its still detroit how many games have they won in the past 5 years? i wouldnt base your argument on drafting another DL on something detroit has done IMO

Good point. If they'd had any consistency up there on the coaching staff, they probably could have stopped with Williams.

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6391713)
I'd rather have Berry. ****, how much 1st rnd talent do we need on the D-Line? We need to spread the wealth man. we're going to have the most expensive D-line in the NFL, with only 3 guys playing on it.

And who wants to go though a 3rd straight year of "X-lineman is a bust in his first year". Im tired of hearing that shit. We'll just hear it again if we draft Suh.

Suh is a crapload better than Jackson and i seriously doubt anyone would say he is. Suh is already the consensus best player in the draft, TJ wasn't even on the radar of most teams until mid-first round.

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6392058)
You draft Suh because he makes everyone around him better.

From a former Ravens and Browns scout:



https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/5939543225

The same scout who said he wasn't high on Dorsey? If he was a scout for the Browns I could care less what he thought, he's a former Ravens scout, not a current one. Dorsey is a stud, albeit misused here, he is still contributing and the defense is much better with him than without.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6392216)
The Chiefs 3-4 is nothing like the Dallas 3-4, the Chiefs are trying to build that boring NE 3-4 where big fat guys play up front and stop the run and the LB's only blitz sometimes.

The NE style of 3-4 is nothing like the Pittsburgh style or the Dallas style. And for the style this team seems to want to play, which is the boring one I might add, Suh has no spot unless you want 3 top 5 picks to rotate in 2 spots.

I love that you said "trying to build". I would love it if our 3-4 was as boring as NE was when they had Seymour.

SDChiefs 12-30-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6391546)
You guys really want to spend another Top 5 draft pick on a 5-technique?

Doing this means:

Our last 3 R1 picks, all of whom were top 5, play the same position.

We'd have over $100M wrapped up in the three of them.

Who becomes the rotational guy? Dorsey or Jackson? What happens to McGee? Or did we waste a R3 on him?

It worked for Detroit. Oh...wait

Quesadilla Joe 12-30-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6392964)

The same scout who said he wasn't high on Dorsey? If he was a scout for the Browns I could care less what he thought, he's a former Ravens scout, not a current one. Dorsey is a stud, albeit misused here, he is still contributing and the defense is much better with him than without.

He was a scout for the Ravens from 2003-2006. He went to the Browns because he was offered a promotion and when Mangini came to town he brought in his own scouts.

Bane 12-30-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6393014)
He was a scout for the Ravens from 2003-2006. He went to the Browns because he was offered a promotion and when Mangini came to town he brought in his own scouts.

He lost all credibility by going to the Browns.ROFL

Tribal Warfare 12-30-2009 06:47 PM

This would be great if KC ran a 4-3

Bane 12-30-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6393052)
This would be great if KC ran a 4-3

We should be anyway IMO.

Ralphy Boy 12-30-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6393014)
He was a scout for the Ravens from 2003-2006. He went to the Browns because he was offered a promotion and when Mangini came to town he brought in his own scouts.

Cool. What the hell were they thinking in 2004? Did the scouts take off for the day after they drafted Dwan Edwards? He's the only one from that year thats still with the team.


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