Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6410484)

Im gonna go out on a limb and say that I dont want Waters replaced.

I understand that wont be popular, but I dont care. The guy has a couple more years left on him and I seriously believe we will be a much improved team next year. The management knows where the holes are now and will move to fill them as well as possible.

I think that Waters poor play was perfectly in conjunction with Alberts and that his play came back to form once Alberts did. I think he will make us forget his suck if/when we upgrade the center position as well. I saw him lunging a lot early in the year and getting a lot of holding penalties and IMHO those are both byproducts of a player trying to do to much because of the players around him not doing their jobs.

I have talked with Brian a couple times and he is one of my favorite players on the team, he one of the few veteran presences and has been a Chief through thick and thin.

If Whitlock never writes that article, the perception of him would still be accurate. Unfortunately, Whitlock made him look like a bitch and its really unfair. It put him in the wron light with us fans.

I even called himout on that article and he responded with saying he should have kept that info private (though, I couldn't tell if he was saying it sarcastically or not by his response) he even went on to say his play hadn't been effected by it. LOL

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6412400)

Albert is not out of position.

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6412513)

shannahan to kc is a done deal

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6412513)

shannahan to kc is a done deal

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6412501)

JFC.

He was a GUARD because Eugene Monroe was incapable of playing anything but left tackle, so Albert moved to guard.

He is NOT a natural guard.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6412579)

I don't know Dane. After this season, he's not showing the proclivity to be a natural left tackle either.

Personally, I hope he's salvagable and not just a shit pick by the king of shit pickers, Carl Peterson. He got beat like a drum this year and tried to get his quarterback killed.

I'm just trying to conceptualize best case scenarios and getting a more naturally gifted LT and C around him while he played LG looked to be a better situation than a left side of the line of Albert/Waters/Niswanger.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6412591)

Dude, come on.

The guys lost 30 pounds and had to rely on technique that he was learning week by week, not on his strength and size. He was playing extremely well the last four weeks of the season and heading into his third year, he should be near an All Pro level, especially if the left guard position is upgraded either through the draft or by Darryl Harris.

Waters is done. Niswanger sucks. The only thing that helped to stop the bleeding was Albert's re-emergence and Wade Smith.

Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6412595)

Albert is neither good nor bad. He could go either way at this point, it looks like he has an upward trend. But he could totally fizzle out, and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he never got better than he is right now.

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6412606)

How can people ignore the last month. Honestly.

It wasn't coincidence we averaged 413 yards per game while Albert played his best football.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6412610)

KC had a dominant offensive line for years and years and never won a goddamn thing.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6412613)

I'm betting that most of these people didn't even watch Albert and that some didn't even watch all of the games.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6412591)

Dude, come on.

The guys lost 30 pounds and had to rely on technique that he was learning week by week, not on his strength and size. He was playing extremely well the last four weeks of the season and heading into his third year, he should be near an All Pro level, especially if the left guard position is upgraded either through the draft or by Darryl Harris.

Waters is done. Niswanger sucks. The only thing that helped to stop the bleeding was Albert's re-emergence and Wade Smith.