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Sweet Daddy Hate 01-28-2010 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6488296)
If the standard is Elway or Manning, we'll never draft a QB early. Using this measure, you would have passed on Matt Ryan 10 out of 10 times. Same with Rivers. Same with Roethlisberger.

And, of course at the time, some argued that Manning couldn't sniff Leaf, so hindsight always puts a different spin on it.

Here's the bottom line: we ****ed up last year. So let's not make that same mistake again.

Of course, this could be the Chiefs fan's mantra since '83. What a ****ing pussy ass franchise...
Claws is out! RRRROOOWWWW!LMAO

patteeu 01-28-2010 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6488296)
If the standard is Elway or Manning, we'll never draft a QB early. Using this measure, you would have passed on Matt Ryan 10 out of 10 times. Same with Rivers. Same with Roethlisberger.

And, of course at the time, some argued that Manning couldn't sniff Leaf, so hindsight always puts a different spin on it.

Here's the bottom line: we ****ed up last year. So let's not make that same mistake again.

Of course, this could be the Chiefs fan's mantra since '83. What a ****ing pussy ass franchise...
If we're going to take a random gamble on a 1st round QB with an 18% chance of getting a Manning, Elway, or Rothlisberger and an 82% chance of getting a Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, or Rex Grossman, then I say we stick with Cassel for another year and take a gamble on a project QB with a cheaper pick (unless, of course, they think they might have something with Guittierez). If Cassel bombs this year then we move on next year and consider a 1st round QB.

DeezNutz 01-28-2010 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6488419)
If we're going to take a random gamble on a 1st round QB with an 18% chance of getting a Manning, Elway, or Rothlisberger and an 82% chance of getting a Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, or Rex Grossman, then I say we stick with Cassel for another year and take a gamble on a project QB with a cheaper pick (unless, of course, they think they might have something with Guittierez). If Cassel bombs this year then we move on next year and consider a 1st round QB.
Cassel has already bombed. We've seen his basement, at least I'd think...

He'll improve. Weis is going to help hide some warts, and having an OC/QB coach will definitely pay dividends. The problem remains that Cassel is NOT the answer. His absolute upside is competent game manager.

Therefore, we MUST keep looking for a franchise-caliber QB.

Load up the Gabbert bandwagon, '11.

OnTheWarpath15 01-28-2010 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6488448)
Cassel has already bombed. We've seen his basement, at least I'd think...
Don't get too cocky, 45th and 46th are still there for the taking.

DeezNutz 01-28-2010 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6488453)
Don't get too cocky, 45th and 46th are still there for the taking.
Is this where I boldly proclaim that he'll improve nearly 20 spots next year? Thus merely placing him among the bottom 1/3 of all starters instead of all eligible QBs?

I don't dislike Cassel, necessarily, but I absolutely ****ing hate everything he represents.

Mecca 01-28-2010 10:33 PM
That kind of thinking of "OMG he might bust" is why this team hasn't drafted a 1st round QB in longer than all but 2 other teams, and why we haven't won anything.

OnTheWarpath15 01-28-2010 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6488474)
Is this where I boldly proclaim that he'll improve nearly 20 spots next year? Thus merely placing him among the bottom 1/3 of all starters instead of all eligible QBs?
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Mecca 01-28-2010 10:35 PM
Quick does anyone know what team has gone the longest without taking a QB, it'll be funny when you realize what team it is...

DeezNutz 01-28-2010 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6488483)
Quick does anyone know what team has gone the longest without taking a QB, it'll be funny when you realize what team it is...
Is it MN?

Edit: Fail, fail, fail. '99.

OnTheWarpath15 01-28-2010 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6488483)
Quick does anyone know what team has gone the longest without taking a QB, it'll be funny when you realize what team it is...
Good question.

I don't think the Saints have taken one since Adrian McPherson in 2005.

I'm sure there's someone that's gone longer.

Mecca 01-28-2010 10:38 PM
No it's not...there's 2 teams longer than the Chiefs and 1 that has gone to the same year...so 2 longer and 1 the same..

If you get all 3 without looking it up I will bow to your knowledge.

OnTheWarpath15 01-28-2010 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6488490)
Is it MN?
They just took John David Booty in the 5th two years ago.

Mecca 01-28-2010 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6488491)
Good question.

I don't think the Saints have taken one since Adrian McPherson in 2005.

I'm sure there's someone that's gone longer.
The Saints are one of the 2 that hasn't taken a 1st round QB in longer than the Chiefs their last one was Archie Manning in the 70's, there's one longer.

Mecca 01-28-2010 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6488493)
They just took John David Booty in the 5th two years ago.
I mean in the 1st round...

OnTheWarpath15 01-28-2010 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6488497)
I mean in the 1st round...
Oh. That changes the question.

The Rams are definitely one.


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