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WildTurkey 02-03-2010 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500964)
I watched four Oklahoma State games this past season and discussed them in detail during and after the game with a couple of people who are OSU fans/boosters. (The owner of the Sports bar I hang out at is an OSU alumni, so they are always on at his joint.) But since you have no ****ing knowledge of what I watch, I readily expected something snide, ignorant and irrelevant from you in response.

I watched him quite a bit as well... and think while being a good OT I would never compare him to Joe Thomas who was as dominant as they get and you knew that would translate to the pros... I see Okung as a good middle of the 1st round LT nothing more

WildTurkey 02-03-2010 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500968)
You were bitching about our offense and how Okung wouldn't help it, but didn't provide anything of merit in terms of potential draft picks on the offensive side of the ball. That our wideouts can't get open. That Cassel sucks.

So are you advocating a guy like Bryant with the first pick? Or Bradford? Or are you just happy being the parrot on OTW's shoulder?

yeah and I can bitch about the defense as well... because it was equally awful which is why I have been pimping Eric Berry for quite a long time ... we have virtually no talent at LB so no I wouldn't be against McClain, and I don't think Cassel sucks I just think he holds on to the ball way too long... and if liking Albert and not wanting to take LT at #5 makes me a parrot than I guess that's what I am

and FTR If I were taking an offensive player with that pick I would take Bryant or Clausen with that pick before I would take Okung

RustShack 02-03-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500964)
I watched four Oklahoma State games this past season and discussed them in detail during and after the game with a couple of people who are OSU fans/boosters. (The owner of the Sports bar I hang out at is an OSU alumni, so they are always on at his joint.) But since you have no ****ing knowledge of what I watch, I readily expected something snide, ignorant and irrelevant from you in response.

Ahh discussed it with fans. That explains the overhype. Maybe you should watch his ****ing highlight real for Christ sakes, even his pass blocking there isn't that good.

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6500956)
It helps your defense, and you know defense wins championships right?

I'll be thinking of you and your words of wisdom when I watch Peyton Manning and Drew Brees in the Super Bowl on Sunday.

chiefs1111 02-03-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6500905)
Well said.

Cassel took 8 sacks in the final 6 games, yet played his worst football over that timeframe.

I'm sick of everyone else getting blamed for the failures of our QB.

Well said. Cassel could have 10 seconds to throw a pass,take a sack and some people here would still blame the line.

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6500975)
Ahh discussed it with fans. That explains the overhype. Maybe you should watch his ****ing highlight real for Christ sakes, even his pass blocking there isn't that good.

Oh, so now we are on to the highlight reel? Well, I've seen that as well. In fact, someone posted one of his highlight "reels" on the The Lounge a week or so ago. What's next, you crying about me not seeing the game films from the other Big 12 teams defensive coordinators?

Look, I understand that you have complete tunnel vision with McClain and can't see the forest for the trees at this point, but it doesn't mean that you have to be a complete douche nozzle every single time you post.

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 6500984)
Well said. Cassel could have 10 seconds to throw a pass,take a sack and some people here would still blame the line.

That's fine, but until he gets a line, it's hard to ultimately judge his abilities at quarterback. The two (a good quarterback and a good line) are tied together to the point where it's almost impossible to have one without the other.

WildTurkey 02-03-2010 12:53 AM

but you don't need to have an o-line comprised of 1st rounders to win... you need impact players all over the place.. the idea that every high pick needs to be a lineman drives me ****ing crazy

Saccopoo 02-03-2010 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6500993)
but you don't need to have an o-line comprised of 1st rounders to win... you need impact players all over the place.. the idea that every high pick needs to be a lineman drives me ****ing crazy

Who said every high pick needs to be an offensive lineman?

I mean, if the general consensus is that our offensive line is fine, we'll be able to get a receiver with our now expected top five pick next year and cross our fingers that Albert finally "gets it" in his third season of starting at the left tackle spot, and we need to focus on the defensive side of the ball, then so be it.

I hope you are all happy as pigs in mud when the Chiefs actually pick McClain, because I don't think that Okung is going to be there anyway as the Redskins desperately need an offensive tackle as do the Buccaneers.

1. Suh
2. McCoy
3. Berry
4. Okung
5. McClain

RustShack 02-03-2010 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500985)
Oh, so now we are on to the highlight reel? Well, I've seen that as well. In fact, someone posted one of his highlight "reels" on the The Lounge a week or so ago. What's next, you crying about me not seeing the game films from the other Big 12 teams defensive coordinators?

Look, I understand that you have complete tunnel vision with McClain and can't see the forest for the trees at this point, but it doesn't mean that you have to be a complete douche nozzle every single time you post.

I haven't said a single thing about McClain in awhile **** stick. And no you obviously haven't watched his highlight reel because he ****ing sucks in pass protection outside of a few plays. He gets better protection from the right side of the line, and if they didn't get rid of the ball almost instantly after snapping he would have given up many sacks and pressures. Hell he even gets pushed back and almost into the QB in his own highlight real on a few snaps for **** sake. He is a great run blocker(except when it comes to pulling), but his pass blocking is below average.. average at the very best. He is an NFL RT. You just need to realize the difference between schemes and what players are asked to do in the NFL vs in college. You sir, are a ****ing idiot.

RustShack 02-03-2010 01:16 AM

You need to realize great players don't come out at every position every year. You are blind and are over valuing Okung just because of his position. LT, just like QB, will go high every single year because of position importance, not because of talent. If this were the draft Albert was in Albert would have gone before Okung, and hell Okung might not of even been a first round pick last year. If you actually understood what a great LT prospect looks like, you would be looking at Buluga, Campell, and Davis all before Okung.

WildTurkey 02-03-2010 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6501000)
Who said every high pick needs to be an offensive lineman?

I mean, if the general consensus is that our offensive line is fine, we'll be able to get a receiver with our now expected top five pick next year and cross our fingers that Albert finally "gets it" in his third season of starting at the left tackle spot, and we need to focus on the defensive side of the ball, then so be it.

I hope you are all happy as pigs in mud when the Chiefs actually pick McClain, because I don't think that Okung is going to be there anyway as the Redskins desperately need an offensive tackle as do the Buccaneers.

1. Suh
2. McCoy
3. Berry
4. Okung
5. McClain

Albert was just fine his rookie season.... and improved over the season this year..... the Chiefs can draft other lineman but I don't think we need a LT....

BossChief 02-03-2010 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500977)
I'll be thinking of you and your words of wisdom when I watch Peyton Manning and Drew Brees in the Super Bowl on Sunday.

how many first round olinemen do those teams have, combined?

RustShack 02-03-2010 01:25 AM

Sacapoo doesn't understand that its takes time for most players to develop. Hes also going to be the first one on the Albert bandwagon next year when hes kicking ass.

WildTurkey 02-03-2010 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6501019)
how many first round olinemen do those teams have, combined?

let alone top 5 lineman


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