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patteeu 03-01-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6568912)
Straw man indeed. Oh, you're so repressed, Stevie. How do you bear it? ROFL

This isn't censorship. Becky didn't steal Dole's login and delete patteeu's thread. Really. BTW, I was here at the beginning too, so spare me your horseshit ChiefsPlanet history lesson. These threads are just getting moved where they belong. Separate but equal may not have worked in the South, but it works just fine in cyberspace. Nobody is telling any of what you can or can't post. It's just a matter of keeping it in the proper forum - the forum that was specifically created for it at the urging of the vast majority of the BB members.

Vast majority? I lost count of the number of times you and other similarly misguided posters tried to create a politics subforum and lost before you finally mustered enough votes (with the help of a couple of turncoats like jAZ, who btw was one of the biggest spammers at the time) to get it done. Don't act like this was a slam dunk landslide.

dirk digler 03-01-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6568936)
Don't make me come down there. :grr:

It would be awesome. I say we try it for a couple of weeks

Frazod 03-01-2010 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6568944)
Vast majority? I lost count of the number of times you and other similarly misguided posters tried to create a politics subforum and lost before you finally mustered enough votes (with the help of a couple of turncoats like jAZ, who btw was one of the biggest spammers at the time) to get it done. Don't act like this was a slam dunk landslide.

Your tears are just as tasty as always. :D

Phobia 03-01-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6568944)
Vast majority? I lost count of the number of times you and other similarly misguided posters tried to create a politics subforum and lost before you finally mustered enough votes (with the help of a couple of turncoats like jAZ, who btw was one of the biggest spammers at the time) to get it done. Don't act like this was a slam dunk landslide.

Votes? I knew it!

MODS! Please move this to the political forum.

patteeu 03-01-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6568943)
I'd say I've made my point, unless you have some patteeumatical equation that can prove that 30% somehow beats 70%.

Feel free to see about getting this relocated anywhere you want, although I guess we'll have to get it removed from your ass first.

Why would I want it moved? That's not my thing, it's yours.

As for your little poll, it seems kind of meaningless to me. It's meaningless because several of the "yes" voters made it clear that they only had abusive cases in mind, but more importantly it's meaningless because like so many of your other inane ideas, the mods are going to keep on being reasonable anyway.

It was a fun little thread though. Thanks for posting it. :)

Frazod 03-01-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6568959)
Why would I want it moved? That's not my thing, it's yours.

As for your little poll, it seems kind of meaningless to me. It's meaningless because several of the "yes" voters made it clear that they only had abusive cases in mind, but more importantly it's meaningless because like so many of your other inane ideas, the mods are going to keep on being reasonable anyway.

It was a fun little thread though. Thanks for posting it. :)

We should talk to some of your liberal friends - perhaps we can rustle you up a "I participated" trophy. :thumb:

Mr. Flopnuts 03-01-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6568964)
We should talk to some of your liberal friends - perhaps we can rustle you up a "I participated" trophy. :thumb:

I want to sneak an "I voted for Obama" bumper sticker on his car. :evil:

jAZ 03-01-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6568939)
You don't even address the biggest issue here. The biggest issue is the gray area between news/current events and politics and the way that line has a tendency to shift depending on who the poster is. As someone pointed out early on, this thread could be considered political, but since Frazod posted it, he's not available to whine about it.

It's not very gray IMO. If it's political or religious, then it stays in the DC, no matter who posts it (a DC regular, a Lounge-only regular, or a total noob).

The LONE exception is a major news event, one that rises above politics, then it stays in the Lounge until it's hijacked (then moved).

That exception is handled by the mods and they usually get it right. That's a gray area I'm comfortable with.

But the question being raised here is people who are deliberately and repeatedly trying to take minor stories with a political or religious angle and turning it into a debate in the Lounge.

That's worthy of punishment.

jAZ 03-01-2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6568944)
Vast majority? I lost count of the number of times you and other similarly misguided posters tried to create a politics subforum and lost before you finally mustered enough votes (with the help of a couple of turncoats like jAZ, who btw was one of the biggest spammers at the time) to get it done. Don't act like this was a slam dunk landslide.

I'll take all the blame you have for creating the sub forum. It was the right thing to do and generally has worked out well. My only request the whole time was that it be listed as a sub forum of the Lounge and be given the visibility that the 2nd most trafficked forum deserved.

Since that change, I've been perfectly happy with the DC/Lounge situation.

luv 03-01-2010 11:46 PM

If we police the political/religious threads in this manner, then we would have to police threads about movies, music, tv, electronics, etc in the same fashion, as we have a separate forum for those as well. And also threads about the draft, gambling, or fantasy sports, as they have their own forum, too. We can't just pick on threads about stuff that we may or may not like.

For this reason, I'm voting no. I think the mods are doing a good job the way they are handling things right now.

Frazod 03-01-2010 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6569021)
If we police the political/religious threads in this manner, then we would have to police threads about movies, music, tv, electronics, etc in the same fashion, as we have a separate forum for those as well. And also threads about the draft, gambling, or fantasy sports, as they have their own forum, too. We can't just pick on threads about stuff that we may or may not like.

For this reason, I'm voting no. I think the mods are doing a good job the way they are handling things right now.

The mods move those threads, too. Which is fine. It's good those forums exist because it keeps the main forum cleaned up.

It's the nature of political/religious threads that are the problem. For example, nobody is going to post a picture of an aborted fetus in a thread about iPods.

jAZ 03-02-2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6569021)
If we police the political/religious threads in this manner, then we would have to police threads about movies, music, tv, electronics, etc in the same fashion, as we have a separate forum for those as well. And also threads about the draft, gambling, or fantasy sports, as they have their own forum, too. We can't just pick on threads about stuff that we may or may not like.

For this reason, I'm voting no. I think the mods are doing a good job the way they are handling things right now.

I disagree 100%. Political threads account for nearly 15% of the entire Lounge and they are divisive and a major distraction to the general readers of the Lounge. That's hugely different than the media, pictures, draft and other forums.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-02-2010 12:07 AM

Something just occurred to me. These people? What the **** you mean these people?

Brock 03-02-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6569021)
If we police the political/religious threads in this manner, then we would have to police threads about movies, music, tv, electronics, etc in the same fashion, as we have a separate forum for those as well. And also threads about the draft, gambling, or fantasy sports, as they have their own forum, too. We can't just pick on threads about stuff that we may or may not like.

For this reason, I'm voting no. I think the mods are doing a good job the way they are handling things right now.

That's nonsense. Politics and religion spark more arguments and bile than any other subject. Keep it out of here.

doomy3 03-02-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6569053)
That's nonsense. Politics and religion spark more arguments and bile than any other subject. Keep it out of here.

You must have already forgotten about Mark Sanchez.


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