I think the WR they took in the first sucks. And Tebow was perhaps the biggest reach in the history of the draft.

And what you called sealing the edge was, in fact, Okung getting pushed staright back into a QB who was getting rid of the ball far too quickly for Okung to be owned.

Yes Laz, you are absolutely right, but, there is a but there, one can also say they will improve our team overall.

McCluster will make the offense better. And Arenas will improve the return game, and I think he will contribute on defense as well. And you and I sure know this team REALLY needed a return man.

No, Tebow was going to go around that spot to someone. He's a Heisman trophy winner, a two time national champion, is physically prototype, and has all those intangibles. It wasn't a reach at all. Considering all the turds that have gone high as quarterbacks, such as Jamarcus Russell with the overall #1, I don't think that Tebow in the late first round is a stretch by any measure. Add to that that they got him for nothing (used the picks that they got from moving down), I think it's a hell of a pick.

And Demaryius Thomas was a legit first rounder by everyone's account. If he played in any other system other than Georgia Tech's wishbone, he would have put up staggering numbers.

go to the walter thread and read your posts
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Don't start. Fact is, he didn't give up a sack to some of the best pass rushers in college, OSU led the Big 12 in rushing and he was a big part of that.

You don't like him. Pete Carroll did.

Tebow went right where he was expected to go.

NEW YORK -- The hot spot for first-round trade movement? Try the bottom third of the round.

NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock predicted that teams would look to leap frog the Minnesota Vikings with the 30th overall pick for a chance at a quarterback.

That's where Mayock envisions teams such as the Buffalo Bills attempting to trade up from early in the second round to try and snag either former Florida QB Tim Tebow, the 2007 Heisman winner, or Texas QB Colt McCoy, the quarterback with an NCAA-record 45 wins in 53 career starts.

"I think we're going to get a lot more movement in the back third of the first round than we've ever seen,'' Mayock said. "Teams are going to scramble to get the third and fourth quarterbacks, Tebow and McCoy because after them, there's a dropoff.

Maybe you prefer King or Schefter:

Rotoworld:
Interested teams are discussing trades into the "final ten or so picks" of first round for a shot at Tim Tebow, according to SI.com's Peter King.

ESPN's Adam Schefter had an identical report, adding that the more he hears the more he believes Tebow will be a first-rounder. Schefter also expects Colt McCoy and Jimmy Clausen to go off the board in the first round. Denver and Buffalo appear to be the most likely destinations for Tebow.
Source: Peter King on Twitter

Even if you're correct, I doubt those guys will be better than Cutler and Marshall.

I could look at it the other way as well.

There's no way Rookie Linebacker A makes up for the fact that we can't return a kick worth crap, of there's no way Rookie NT B makes up for the fact that Charles is the only guy on our otherwise slow ass offense who can break a big play, and he can't touch the ball on every play.

I don't think this team is in a position where it can pick and choose who it needs at certain spots, because the needs are everywhere. It's like one of those things where you plug one leak and another one springs open.

I think the guys running this show just looked at it and said we need guys like DJ and Studabaker and Dorsey and Jackson to step it up this year on D, but we have no one on O who is going to be able to step it up and provide the skills that maybe McCluster brings to the table. We'll see...

I want some of what Rick Gosselin is smoking.

Right next to Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell.

Yes, because Tim Tebow is just like those two lazy-ass POSs. ROFL

Don't we all...
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That's a perfect comparison - all the physical intangibles and they don't give one shit about the game.

Tebow loves the game and won't end up in Vegas like those other nitwits did right after they were drafted. At the very least you get a guy who loves to play the game and will work his ass off to make every effort to be a success in the league.

That's what separates Tebow from clown shoes like that. Thank you for making a perfect argument for Tebow versus other QB's that went high in the draft that nobody had a problem taking in their respective drafts.

To be fair, most CP posters have better access to film, run more private workouts for players, and hire more scouts than the Chiefs do. Most fans also have a better handle on the abilities of the current players and what our new staff thinks they can do with them. I thought that was fairly clear.