Basically...Green Bay has made a few good picks over the last 5 years...

Aaron Rodgers, Greg Jennings, Nick Collins and Jermichael Finley are the most notable...

So had the Chiefs taken Aaron Rodgers instead of Derrick Johnson in 2005 the Chiefs would be an amazing drafting team...

In mecca's eyes...

Oh wait a second...no they wouldn't...because they are the Chiefs...and if Aaron Rodgers were a Chief...he would be super overrated...because Mecca is a ****ing moron.

Except the other teams yu praise such as the Ravens have struggled to draft a good WR too.

Green Bay 1st round picks since 2000:

Bubba Franks
Jamal Reynolds
Javon Walker
Nick Barnett
Ahmad Carroll
Aaron Rodgers
A.J. Hawk
Justin Harrell
B.J. Raji
Clay Matthews
Brian Bulaga

But Derrick Mason wasn't brought in to cover up drafting failures!! Only the Patriots do that!!!

my point being:

(and my point when I coined the term drafturbators...)

These draft "gurus" expect WAY too much out of the draft...they expect every pick to be some sort of hit...whether it's the 1st round or the 7th round...

when in reality...

That's just not how it happens...

Most teams have 1-3 star players...5-10 quality players that would start on most teams...10-15 system players...and the rest are filled out by need, specialties, etc...

and the 4th-7th round is important because you can fill out your roster with young guys, pay them peanuts compared to the veteran minimum, and perhaps with coaching ONE OR TWO of them will pan out to become tier 1 or tier 2 players...

But they expect that out of every 3rd and 4th round pick and if you go look at the last 5 years of the draft...

go see how many 2nd day picks make pro bowls...or are all-pro caliber players...

:facepalm:

I forgot questioning the Patriots is not ok, I hope you enjoy your 82 TE's.

basically...

if the salary cap were never to return...

the draft would become less and less important...especially on day 3

I'll take ours:

2000: None (traded for Bill Belichick, big win!)
2001: Richard Seymour
2002: Daniel Graham
2003: Ty Warren
2004: Vince Wilfork and Ben Watson
2005: Logan Mankins
2006: Laurence Maroney (worst one)
2007: Brandon Meriweather
2008: Jerod Mayo
2009: None (traded out)
2010: Devin McCourty

:LOL:

the classic Mecca deflection....

we lay out 20 posts FULL of evidence...he realizes he's a dipshit...and he tries to deflect the attention

way to go, guy!

You are such a pro/college football guru!

Do you even know that we entered the draft with precisely TWO TEs on the entire 80 man roster, of whom one was over 30 years old, and the other had never played a down in the NFL?

Watson and Graham left. The other TEs didn't pan out. What don't you get?

well on surface Green Bay's does look better because of Aaron Rodgers but that doesn't take into account Tom Brady being a Patriot...so yeah, the Patriots do a good job building around Tom Brady and Bill Belichick...and they've done it for years.

I hate the ****ing Patriots...I really do.

But I couldn't pick a better team for the Chiefs to try and model than the team that has OWNED the salary cap era of the NFL for the past decade...

and the anti-Pioli agenda is just laughable now...

Dane, one of the biggest Pioli haters because of the 2009 offseason...even sees it now...these guys are just out to bitch...everyone loved the draft...every single expert these guys have quoted for the last 4 months...

but that doesn't work for them...they want to hate...

It's ridiculous and sad...these members are sad, sad, sad "fans"...and really make this board NOTHING but negative.

First and foremost Aaron Rodgers is the current GB GM's first pick so he starts there.

Secondly, how many TE's have the Patriots drafted overall? Since some of them aren't on the team anymore doesn't mean they haven't used a bunch of picks on TE's. It's a ton...they used a 3rd rounder on a guy like David Thomas. They've cut and traded several but that team has traded a ton of TE's, so much so it's a running joke in some ways.

Also the idea that anyone is anti Pioli is ****ing hilarious, this is not Nazi Germany, we can debate and question shit.

yeah, BB is a running joke in the NFL...

LMAO

Mecca...

the moron!

three years ago on this board it was...

YOU TAKE THE BPA!

now it's...

YOU TAKE THE BPA AT YOUR POSITION OF MOST NEED!

Mecca makes a good point about drafting all those tight ends though I disagree with the larger point about BB.


As for Pioli being a good drafter? Thats a ****ing joke.