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AndChiefs 07-16-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 6883804)
Personally I have no problem discriminating against fat people who are fat because of their own habits. Charge them more for insurance (since they are probably just as expensive as smokers) and whatever else you want to do.

However, using BMI will cause as many if not more problems than it would solve. Its inaccurate in that it would punish the people the gov’t is trying to benefit – people who are in shape and workout. Muscle mass throws everything off. If it goes where a lot of people think it might go, Bruno deadlifting Buicks at Gold Gym every day will suddenly be considered obese and a health risk, pay higher premiums, and be discriminated against just like big Bertha stuffing her face with cheeseburgers at McDonalds.

Some people are overweight for other reasons besides their eating habits. If the gov’t is going to punish fat people, they need to make sure they are only punishing fat people, and broad assumptions based on the (intentionally) simplest formula known to man isn’t the way to do it.

BMI is an awful statistic. My BMI lists me as obese. I go to the gym five days a week for an hour and a half to two hours. I do cardio and lifting.

While I'm not even extremely muscular I'm listed as obese. It's ridiculous.

ArrowheadHawk 07-16-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6883848)
Read up on it and get back to me when you're a little more educated.

I have better shit to do with my time.

Brock 07-16-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6883850)
It helped me lose 50 pounds.

Oh well, at least we have this useful anecdotal evidence. Let's apply it to every man, woman and child in the USA.

Brock 07-16-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6883852)
I have better shit to do with my time.

You're a ****ing reerun.

AndChiefs 07-16-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6883852)
I have better shit to do with my time.

Aspartame increases hunger and causes you to eat more. I doubt the aspartame alone helped you lose the weight. If so, you're special. There's a reason so many fat people buying Diet Coke's are still fat.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6883824)
People are fat in this country for a variety of reasons, and giving the government more power over people isn't the solution.

The major reason is the food industry.

Unless some wealthy philanthropist decides to do the entire country a favor, the government is going to have to do something about it.

ArrowheadHawk 07-16-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6883854)
You're a ****ing reerun.

:spock: I'm in a message board asking you to tell me why its not better and you basically respond with. "I'm not going to tell you go find out for yourself". And now you resort to name calling. Great way to have a discussion.

Brock 07-16-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6883858)
The major reason is the food industry.

No, it isn't. It's behavior.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6883842)
Bullshit. People are fat in this country because they eat too much and they don't exercise. Food industry, advertising, and government inaction have nothing to do with it. Everybody knows they should eat better and they should exercise and they choose not to.

People are a lot fatter now than they were 50 years ago.

Why? The food industry changed.

Rain Man 07-16-2010 03:02 PM

I saw a documentary about American deserters living in North Korea a while back, and it was interesting. There was a small handful of them, and I think the Koreans did things like kidnap white wives for them and stuff. It was a very strange world they lived in, and particularly odd to see their kids, who were white but had completely grown up in the Kim cult. Very strange.

One of the most striking lines to me was this one guy, a big ol' fat American guy who'd been there for decades, talking about how well he was treated. He said something like, "Even when times were hard, they never cut my food rations." (He got choked up saing it.) 1.6 kilos a day. I always got it. [rain man note: I could be wrong on the amount. Working from memory.]

It was an interesting movie. Here's a review: "Crossing the Line". http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/19/movies/19cros.html

Brock 07-16-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 6883860)
:spock: I'm in a message board asking you to tell me why its not better and you basically respond with. "I'm not going to tell you go find out for yourself". And now you resort to name calling. Great way to have a discussion.

Do you want me to post links? Or are you too ****ing intellectually lazy to read them?

ArrowheadHawk 07-16-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 6883857)
Aspartame increases hunger and causes you to eat more. I doubt the aspartame alone helped you lose the weight. If so, you're special. There's a reason so many fat people buying Diet Coke's are still fat.

Look Brock an inteligent answer....You are right it wasn't diet soda alone that caused me to lose weight. It was calorie counting which was greatly helped by drinking Diet rather than Regular soda.

Brock 07-16-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6883864)
People are a lot fatter now than they were 50 years ago.

Why? The food industry changed.

What hasn't changed since 50 years ago? Good grief.LMAO

ClevelandBronco 07-16-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6883858)
The major reason is the food industry.

Unless some wealthy philanthropist decides to do the entire country a favor, the government is going to have to do something about it.

I really hope you get killed by a Frito-Lay delivery truck.

sedated 07-16-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 6883857)
There's a reason so many fat people buying Diet Coke's are still fat.

but...but it makes up for the calories in a double quarter pounder with cheese!!


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