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RustShack 09-09-2010 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6990152)
Didn't Gabbert eat ISU up last year? Gabbert's stat line against ISU last season:

32 23 71.9 337 2 0 10.5 181.0
Yeah, Gabbert was good when he wasn't playing against a good defense.

Vs Texas, Nebraska & Oklahoma State: 47-103, 581 yds (172.7 yds/gm), 2 TDs, 5 INTs

Vs everyone else (10 games): 215-342, 3012 yds (301.2 yds/gm), 22 TDs, 4 INTs

Saul Good 09-09-2010 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6990168)
Who said anything about an "out route"?

I was referring to, well, a 35 or 40 yard pass. Down the sideline? Down the middle? Hit in stride?

Work with me here.
You said 35 or 40 yard outs. I guess I just assumed that you wanted him to actually throw it to a player. I think I would question a quarterback who threw the ball 40 yards downfield when a deep out route is 12 yards.

Saul Good 09-09-2010 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990172)
I don't think I said that last year. I might have said being in the spread will help him. But I did say he will be this year. I've however never said anything about him being an NFL QB, and thats what this thread is about.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...27561&page=405

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990172)
Austin Arnaud was poised to be one of the Big12's better QB's last year until he got hurt.

and just for good measure

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990172)
Are you kidding? Iowa States football team is a lot better this year than it was last year. They also should have won the Kansas and Kansas State games among others easily. But they team themselves because they were learning the spread offense and also had a new defensive scheme. Its between them and Nebraska to win the north this year..

RustShack 09-09-2010 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6990214)
Yeah? He was doing good last year outside the Iowa game before he got hurt.

Saul Good 09-09-2010 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990231)
Yeah? He was doing good last year outside the Iowa game before he got hurt.
There are 11 other teams in the Big XII.

Was he:

Better than Sam Bradford? Better than Colt McCoy? Better than Blaine Gabbert? Better than Todd Reesing? Better than Zack Robinson? Better than Taylor Potts? Better than Robert Griffin?

At the absolute best, he was poised to be the 8th best.

RustShack 09-09-2010 08:54 PM
In his 5 games(excluding Iowa) before getting hurt he had 1,000 yards, 8 TD's and 0 Int's. It isn't great, but it was also without three of his top 4 Wr's. The second game of the year against Iowa was ugly with 4 INT's... but that was again without his WR's and his first real game in a spread offense. After he broke his throwing hand he finished the those games with 935 yards 6 TD's and 8 INT's.

This year though he has all three of those WR's back, one who stepped up pretty big last year, and a much better TE this year. Not to mention its his second year in the spread offense(our OC who game from Rice broke nearly every offensive record there after a down first year including having a top 5 offense in the Nation) and this is the first time AA has been in the same offense two years in a row.. not to mention its also his Senior year. Like I said, hes poised to have a big year.

He was very impressive last week(outside just a few throws) against NIU who is ranked higher than ISU, went to a Bowl game last year, and they have the #1 defense in whatever conference they are in.

RustShack 09-09-2010 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6990246)
There are 11 other teams in the Big XII.

Was he:

Better than Sam Bradford? Better than Colt McCoy? Better than Blaine Gabbert? Better than Todd Reesing? Better than Zack Robinson? Better than Taylor Potts? Better than Robert Griffin?

At the absolute best, he was poised to be the 8th best.
That was me talking about him this year..

RustShack 09-09-2010 08:57 PM
Wait my bad wrong one. Yeah he could have had a better year than some of them if he hadn't got hurt. Who knows where he would have finished... he was in the top half at least before the injury.

Saul Good 09-09-2010 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990260)
That was me talking about him this year..
No it wasn't. You said that he was poised to be one of the better QBs in the Big XII BEFORE he got hurt. He got hurt last year.

RustShack 09-09-2010 08:58 PM
But anyways this is pretty irrelevant to this discussion.. because being a good Big12 QB doesn't make you a good NFL QB.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-09-2010 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990281)
But anyways this is pretty irrelevant to this discussion.. because being a good NCAA QB doesn't make you a good NFL QB.
Better.

Saul Good 09-09-2010 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990258)
In his 5 games(excluding Iowa) before getting hurt he had 1,000 yards, 8 TD's and 0 Int's. It isn't great, but it was also without three of his top 4 Wr's. The second game of the year against Iowa was ugly with 4 INT's... but that was again without his WR's and his first real game in a spread offense. After he broke his throwing hand he finished the those games with 935 yards 6 TD's and 8 INT's.

This year though he has all three of those WR's back, one who stepped up pretty big last year, and a much better TE this year. Not to mention its his second year in the spread offense(our OC who game from Rice broke nearly every offensive record there after a down first year including having a top 5 offense in the Nation) and this is the first time AA has been in the same offense two years in a row.. not to mention its also his Senior year. Like I said, hes poised to have a big year.

He was very impressive last week(outside just a few throws) against NIU who is ranked higher than ISU, went to a Bowl game last year, and they have the #1 defense in whatever conference they are in.
He's a solid QB, but he's not a guy who stands out. You can't laugh at the game Gabbert had against Illinois while praising Arnaud. I think Gabbert's over-rated, but he's way above Arnaud.

Saul Good 09-09-2010 09:02 PM
There's never been a Big XII QB who was a good NFL QB. Kordell Stewart is the best one. Yuck

RustShack 09-09-2010 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6990296)
He's a solid QB, but he's not a guy who stands out. You can't laugh at the game Gabbert had against Illinois while praising Arnaud. I think Gabbert's over-rated, but he's way above Arnaud.
Uhh.. I have never said anything about Arnaud being a NFL QB ever.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-09-2010 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6990165)
Oh he did make some plays. And put up some nice stats. I would take him as a College QB. His pocket presence was complete shit. He could have stepped up multiple times and made some real nice throws. Instead he kept running out of the pocket, a lot of the time when he had no reason to at all. A lot of times it made his footwork and throwing motion complete shit too. Sometimes he would start to run out(for no reason) then just stop and make an ugly though. To his credit a lot of those ended up nice plays.. but that wont fly in the NFL.
This is completely uninformed bullshit.


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