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Brock 10-28-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7126048)
You thought he could be the highest rated passer in the league for a 4 week span? Interesting, I was never that optimistic.

Sure, against some of the worst defenses in the league. Why not?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-28-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7126044)
IMO, his ceiling is this. Which was what I thought it was.

I still think he could be making more plays...he can't keep up this pace of mistake-free football. If this is his ceiling, he sucks. I've seen a few flashes that I like

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-28-2010 05:03 PM

Week 2 I didn't even think he could be a game manager.

Just Passin' By 10-28-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7124389)
I don't give a rat's ass if we run the ball 60 times a game, I want to have confidence that the QB can make plays when it comes to him needing to make plays, and we haven't seen any evidence to suggest that he can do that.

I'm talking about late game situations when he needs to make a pass to win, or seal a win.




JFC, how many times does it have to be pointed out that the O-Line, as bad as it was, wasn't solely responsible for the number of sacks he took last year.

His sack numbers for 15 1/2 game for New England were higher than the sack numbers that Brady took the season before, and the season after, combined.

Cassel was every bit as responsible for the 45 sacks he suffered last year as the O-Line.

You keep trying to lay the blame for those sacks from last year on Cassel by citing to what happened in his first season as a stater. It's just not an accurate 1:1 comparison. The first half of that season, Cassel was sacked 28 times, with 233 passes attempted. The second half of that season, Cassel was sacked 17 times, with 283 passes attempted. Why the big difference? Cassel was learning the position, and Neal was out on PUP, leaving a very bad replacement at RG.

Brock 10-28-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 7126062)
If this is his ceiling, he sucks.

Yes.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-28-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7126072)
Yes.

I didn't expect this play from cassel...hopefully he surprises me once more by taking it to the next level

Marcellus 10-28-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 7126079)
I didn't expect this play from cassel...hopefully he surprises me once more by taking it to the next level

Let me see if I understand this.

You admit you were wrong once therefore you COULD be wrong again in the future?

Holy shit, you can do that?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-28-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7126085)
Let me see if I understand this.

You admit you were wrong once therefore you COULD be wrong again in the future?

Holy shit, you can do that?

Heh. I must admit I've been pleased with Cassel's third down performance in the last two games. That said, Im not very optimistic about him

milkman 10-28-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 7126071)
You keep trying to lay the blame for those sacks from last year on Cassel by citing to what happened in his first season as a stater. It's just not an accurate 1:1 comparison. The first half of that season, Cassel was sacked 28 times, with 233 passes attempted. The second half of that season, Cassel was sacked 17 times, with 283 passes attempted. Why the big difference? Cassel was learning the position, and Neal was out on PUP, leaving a very bad replacement at RG.

No, the difference was that Josh McDaniels put him a shotgun spread in the second half of the season for a much larger percentage of plays than he had run in the first half.

BigRedChief 10-29-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 7126096)
Heh. I must admit I've been pleased with Cassel's third down performance in the last two games. That said, Im not very optimistic about him

True dat.:clap:

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-30-2010 01:55 AM

He's starting to show a little bit of a metamorphosis, but I'm not too optimistic about the ceiling for the end result.


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