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wutamess 02-13-2011 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 7426859)
Just take a sharpie and color over the camera when she leaves it laying around.

Honestly, though, kids can pick up on sincerity and will respond to the honest communication more than bringing the hammer down. Once you explain what is wrong and what is okay, and make boundaries clear, she will know what will fly and what won't.

If she violates these boundaries, punishment is necessary. Sounds like she doesn't know the boundaries yet, though. So coming down hard on her won't accomplish anything positive, it will just confuse and anger her.

So "No Boys" doesn't establish a boundary?

BIG_DADDY 02-13-2011 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7426852)
But that's just it! What's my fuggin line?
"Don't talk to boys?" That's kinda weak. Especially when we were all doing it around that age.

"Don't kiss boys?" Weak also.

What do I have to stand on... how to you "discipline that"?
By doing nothing though it sends the signal that it's ok and condone and she KNOW's we can't really do anything. We still have that "control/fear" aspect over her... looks like we're losing that so what do we do... just ride and hope that our teachings have been instilled and she'll make the right decisions.

Thing is... My pete peeve is a chick that put guys on fuggin pedestal and her trying to impress this guys show's that she's emotionally weak and that's what I really want to fix here. Thin is... other than showing her examples of idiots and family members, I have no idea what to do.

I am not going to pretend to be an expert on something I have zero experience at. If it was me like you I would probably ground her for a couple weeks and take the phone letting her know how I feel about what she has done. You made the rules, she broke the rules. If there is no consiquence then what is the point of having rules? At 13 I don't think it is unreasonable to look at her phone. There is no point in having those rules if you can't enforce them. That being said once the 2 weeks is over I think I would give her the phone back and let her know if it happens again there will be no phone until 16 no matter how much she cries about it. I personally wouldn't ban her from ever talking to boys though, but that's just me. I would restrict the time.

wutamess 02-13-2011 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 7426860)
I'd simply say "Be yourself. You are beautiful on who you are. If other people or a guy can't see that, then well, that's their problem. Not yours."

Comeon Coach this is 2011... I think examples will hit home more than the You're beautiful speech. It may already seem like I preach to her a lot although it's more related to her sport activities.

Coach 02-13-2011 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7426864)
Great points but you're focusing on the chores too much. She does the chores no problem and is honestly quite good about it. The story I gave was just a story about today. But we have no problem with her and chores... She's actually a GREAT kid, honest, sneaky as we all were, with a good head on her shoulders.

Pictures, I don't think she's sent nekidd pics of anything more than the fat girl lips out profile pose.

But I will make it clear that it's a proviledge. Text was disabled, so she got around that with Skype. Since I've disabled Skype from our network also.

Maybe I am focusing on the chores too much, so I'll just ignore it. It still doesn't change the fact that she still ran up the phone and been texting/skyping as well.

But on the other hand, texting and skyping is the new age of technology. Maybe she wants to get into that. It's reasonable to do so. I know I text more than I talk. Perhaps she should be entitled to that as well?

And suzzer99 is right, I would not want to tell her what you have found. That's just going to make her even more protective of herself, and going to do things that you don't want to even know.

wutamess 02-13-2011 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7426870)
So you dealt with it and then asked for advice? Little backwards thinking there.

No... Wifey spoke with her... I'm asking what to do on my end and what could/should we have and can still do differently.

jd1020 02-13-2011 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7426883)
No... Wifey spoke with her... I'm asking what to do on my end and what could/should we have and can still do differently.

Just wait til the next time it happens and take it away. IMO, everyone gets a second chance.

The whole, "fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me" deal.

If it happens again just take the phone away and let her know that when she gets a job at 16 to afford her own phone then she can get another one.

Coach 02-13-2011 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7426872)
So "No Boys" doesn't establish a boundary?

At the same time, the age 13-15 range is when kids are starting to find their own identy, and they are going to start exploring the oppisite sex.

I think the "no boys" rule is a little harsh, but that is me.

Chiefspants 02-13-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 7426746)
Don't want details? Dating? She's 13!

Well, I don't know, I just think it's good to establish lessons like this early, a lot of girls do not realize the consequences of doing things like that at that age.

BIG_DADDY 02-13-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7426877)
Comeon Coach this is 2011... I think examples will hit home more than the You're beautiful speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI2NyfV9N3g

Dante84 02-13-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7426872)
So "No Boys" doesn't establish a boundary?

Its kind of ambiguous and umbrella-ish. Specifics, and to some degree, reasoning, will help to clarify to her that you have her best interest at heart. Tell her to ask if she's unsure about something... and also tell her that if she's unsure, its probably a sign that she shouldn't be doing it.

cdcox 02-13-2011 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 7426863)
Damn, that would be tough to kick a grandkid to the curb like that. But I understand what you are saying.

The kid would be in a good home if adopted.

I just don't have raising another kid in me.

Coach 02-13-2011 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 7426877)
Comeon Coach this is 2011... I think examples will hit home more than the You're beautiful speech. It may already seem like I preach to her a lot although it's more related to her sport activities.

Fair enough. I'm just only giving advice as best as I can.

wutamess 02-13-2011 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 7426886)
At the same time, the age 13-15 range is when kids are starting to find their own identy, and they are going to start exploring the oppisite sex.

I think the "no boys" rule is a little harsh, but that is me.

I know... but they don't need to be talking on the phone... IMO. I don't care how much she needs to find herself. She has next year on (Freshman) to do all that.

The progression goes...
Talking on phone...
Then dating...

So not ready for dating at the 8th grade.
I'll keep my harshness on this one.

wutamess 02-13-2011 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 7426891)
Its kind of ambiguous and umbrella-ish. Specifics, and to some degree, reasoning, will help to clarify to her that you have her best interest at heart. Tell her to ask if she's unsure about something... and also tell her that if she's unsure, its probably a sign that she shouldn't be doing it.

No boys IS VERY umbrellaish... That's the awesomeness about it.
Besides... skyping boys STRICTLY FALL UNDER THE NO BOYS RULE.

BIG_DADDY 02-13-2011 12:23 AM

There's always the I am sending you to an all girls school threat.


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