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pr_capone 09-25-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7942932)
Most running backs average 7-9 yards/reception.

Most RB don't have Matt Cassel throwing to them.

Hammock Parties 09-25-2011 07:44 PM

Here's what was telling about McCluster today:

He had ZERO touches in the last 14 minutes of the game.

Why? Because they are scared to death of him fumbling.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-25-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 7942943)
Most RB don't have Matt Cassel throwing to them.

Jamal Charles had 10.4 last year with Matt Cassel throwing to him.

BossChief 09-25-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7942932)
Most running backs average 7-9 yards/reception.

harder to do when your offense features captain checkdown and teams are sitting on your line waiting for those passes.

I contend that his low average is directly reflectant of Matt Cassels ability to severely limit this offense.

jd1020 09-25-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7942932)
Most running backs average 7-9 yards/reception.

I'd like to see a comparison between "most" RB's and McCluster based on where they actually receive the ball. McCluster isn't getting screens. He's all alone vs multiple defenders just about every time.

Warrior5 09-25-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 7942942)
There should be a countdown to him breaking. Dude is too small to be taking the punishment he's receiving.

This is what I thought the OP was about, actually.

Marcellus 09-25-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7921620)
Everyone is too pissed off at Pioli for not picking their favorite 2nd round player that they ignore everything positive about McCluster and amplify every negative.

He will never be Charles but DMC is starting to adjust a bit.

Charles wasn't that good until he had time to play for a while.

Again DMC will never be Charles. Maybe a semi Sproles. I think he is trying too hard right now and pushing it rather than the game coming to him.

Marcellus 09-25-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrior5 (Post 7942962)
This is what I thought the OP was about, actually.

I don't think size is an injury concern as much as it's more of a get hit and go down issue. He has to make dudes miss or he goes down.

Charles can bounce off guys.

Hammock Parties 09-25-2011 07:48 PM

Basically the only reason McCluster gains yardage is because we give him the ball on draw plays and he runs through giant holes.

He does not make guys miss, he does not make big plays, he is not a threat.

jd1020 09-25-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7942979)
Basically the only reason McCluster gains yardage is because we give him the ball on draw plays and he runs through giant holes.

He does not make guys miss, he does not make big plays, he is not a threat.

McCluster gains yards because he's fast, dumbass.

Hammock Parties 09-25-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7942982)
McCluster gains yards because he's fast, dumbass.

Gee, I would hope he could bring something to the table.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-25-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7942960)
I'd like to see a comparison between "most" RB's and McCluster based on where they actually receive the ball. McCluster isn't getting screens. He's all alone vs multiple defenders just about every time.

I can guarantee you that Matt Forte isn't running skinny posts when putting up 10.4 YPC.

He's just not all that effective in the flats, and he doesn't really bounce off of hits that well.

Ironically, he actually works best off tackle. Now, that's not between the tackles, as on any interior run he's garbage, but on isolated draw plays where he can make a single cut and go off of Albert or Richardson, he has some utility.

Marcellus 09-25-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7942987)
I can guarantee you that Matt Forte isn't running skinny posts when putting up 10.4 YPC.

He's just not all that effective in the flats, and he doesn't really bounce off of hits that well.

Ironically, he actually works best off tackle. Now, that's not between the tackles, as on any interior run he's garbage, but on isolated draw plays where he can make a single cut and go off of Albert or Richardson, he has some utility.

This is true and unfortunately he was only supposed to be a utility player. Not a feature back.

Messier 09-25-2011 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7942979)
Basically the only reason McCluster gains yardage is because we give him the ball on draw plays and he runs through giant holes.

He does not make guys miss, he does not make big plays, he is not a threat.


Can't wait for your McCluster highlight vid at the end of the season.

tk13 09-25-2011 07:53 PM

The thing is about McCluster is we know the Eagles wanted him. And if he ended up there, he'd probably be making big plays and we'd be saying "Why don't we have a player like that?" That's how I feel every time I watch him play.


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