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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8093377)

I'd atleast like to see him play a little this year.

If we compete for the rest of the year and win 7-9 games with the injuries we have had this year, I think it would be a mistake not to push in the chips and try and get one of the top prospects in this years class.

there are very few of us that wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8093381)

there are very few of us that wouldn't.

Doubt it happens this year unless Cassel gets hurt.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8093381)

there are very few of us that wouldn't.

The more I see of Luck and Barkley, the more I think trading up to get one of them would be worth it.

Having a legit franchise guy IMO would be worth more than the production you would get out of the picks you gave up.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8093359)

To drive home my point that you can't beat great teams very often without a great qb, look at the Pats schedule that year and who they beat. It's very Chiefs 2010 esque.

They beat 5 teams that were .500 or higher. Even if it's not the toughest schedule how confident would you be if Haley were your HC in that situation. I'd have thrown in the towel the second I saw Brady go down. Haley is just an average HC. If he knew what he was doing he wouldn't have made Bill ****ing Muir our OC...

What gem did you have in mind for Battle

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8093384)

Id give up a whole draft for either one of them...even though Barkley can be a bit of Jeykl and Hyde.

It would be the most exciting moment in the history of sports, for me.

Shit, Im honestly already prepared for us to eventually take one and also prepared for him to be a bust.

Id be totally fine with that as long as they tried again....and again....and again

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8093397)

Id give up a whole draft for either one of them.

It would be the most exciting moment in the history of sports, for me.

Shit, Im honestly already prepared for us to eventually take one and also prepared for him to be a bust.

Id be totally fine with that as long as they tried again....and again....and again

I know some here are adamantly against it but I would give up a whole draft as well. Prob gonna take more than that, but I would call up the Gm of the team with the number one pick and open the pocketbook.

Might get some flack for this but I don't give a **** really.

If Charles, Berry, and Moeaki were healthy this year and we had a Matt Ryan esq qb we could compete for the AFC title. I think with a legit qb we are that close.

Thats why I'll argue with anyone that if it were me I'd go get Luck.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8093413)

Bro, the Luck dream is over.

NO WAY its gonna happen.

If we are gonna have a legit discussion about trading up for a QB, we should be talking about Barkley.

If I'm the Chiefs GM, which some of you will surely say thank the lord you aren't, this is my offseason.

Free Agency:
Resign Bowe and Carr, Try and sign Grubbs from Baltimore to play LG and let Hudson play C, Michael Griffen or LaRon Landry are S free agents if you aren't sold on Lewis.

If Berry is healthy he is athletic enough to play either S position if you brought in one or the other from that list.

Hell Finley from GB is a FA after this year, although likely to get resigned by the Pack I'd throw money at him. He's gonna be a star.

Draft: Figure out which qb I liked the best and go get him.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8093421)

Bro, the Luck dream is over.

NO WAY its gonna happen.

If we are gonna have a legit discussion about trading up for a QB, we should be talking about Barkley.

Likely it is. I'm not giving up tho. I'm not sold INDy is drafting him if they get the first pick.

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 8093278)

See Alex Smith for further assistance.
See the Chiefs 2010 NFL season with Charlie Weis and Matt Cassel.
See the Patriots 2008 NFL season with Josh McDaniels and Matt Cassel.

A good coaching staff can make any offense be productive.

Right... see Josh McDaniels with the Rams in 2011... Oh wait, this anecdotal evidence doesn't support your theory. Seriously, the evidence suggests that the franchise QB is more important than coaching. Quit talking out of your asshole please and thanks.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8093211)

The Packers lost Finley, who is better than Moeaki, their #1 RB, had injuries all over the back seven and still won the SB.*

*FWIW, I don't think that's (the Packers' 10-6 plan) something to strive for, as it would be nearly impossible to replace success like that, but they have shown that you can compete at a high level even when decimated by injuries if you have enough guys in key positions.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8093300)

The 49ers have beaten tons of good teams this year.

The Bengals in Cinci, the Eagles across the country in Philly (winning there is impressive considering) and the Lions in Detroit. They shitbeat the Bucs, who are a decent team.

The 49ers are a complete team right now and I think they are built to do some real damage in January.

Alex Smith is not going to get a team to the SB.

As Hamas stated, these 9ers are the 90s Chiefs.

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 8093323)

9ers have beat Cincy, Philly, Tampa Bay, Detriot, and had a VERY close one against Dallas. These are all competent teams and one of which has already proven they can kick our ass. They've done this all in spite of having Alex Smith as their QB.

I'm logically sane thank you. If Haley can't get our offense to produce there's a huge problem with HIM. He has received Le'ron McClain, Steve Breaston, a new gem in Battle, our first round draft pick Baldwin, and Hudson/Gaither. I realize Jamaal and Moeaki are out but a good Coach will make changes when injuries occur. Which is why I point to the 2008 Patriot season.

Cincy hasn't beaten anyone, Philly is a 3-5 team.

Tampa might be good, but they also got their shit stomped in by Chicago, was it?

And we really don't know for sure what the Lions are either.

For now, you can't really point to any one of those teams as some kind of measure of the 9ers greatness.

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8093436)

The Packers won last year because of one thing, and they are winning this year because of that same thing.

Aaron Rodgers.

The Packer D this year is giving up a shit ton of points, but Rodgers keeps putting up more.

Alex Smith is not going to get a team to the SB.

As Hamas stated, these 9ers are the 90s Chiefs.

Cincy hasn't beaten anyone, Philly is a 3-5 team.

Tampa might be good, but they also got their shit stomped in by Chicago, was it?

And we really don't know for sure what the Lions are either.

For now, you can't really point to any one of those teams as some kind of measure of the 9ers greatness.

As usual, IMO, nice take Milkman.

We need to give every opponent's TE the same treatment we gave Gates, no matter who they are. Otherwise pieces of shit like Anthony Fasano will continue to rape us.