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Quesadilla Joe 12-12-2011 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8195123)
Gotta call BS on this...Pioli does not say anything to anyone, and if he did, they would know to shut the hell up. I think this is a red herring.
It doesn't have to be coming from Pioli. It could be coming from someone close to Ferentz or his agent.

htismaqe 12-12-2011 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by beer me (Post 8197901)
I fully admit my college football stupidity here so somone please guide me. Iowa isn't even a premiere college program are they? I mean I don't follow the college game but I'm in the freakin media and I see sports news of all types every day and I can't say I've EVER seen Iowa highly ranked or touted at all... and I live in a state bordering Iowa lol.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this and tell me why their coach would be regarded a good NFL HC candidate.
Iowa isn't a premiere college program, and that's precisely why he's continuously mentioned as a candidate for NFL jobs. He's had a pretty good streak at a upper-middle class school.

htismaqe 12-12-2011 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8197918)
I just want a guy who has actually been a part of the NFL. Maybe I'm just gunshy but I see too many college coaches come up and coach in the NFL as their first job and fall flat on their face. Then again maybe this guy is what we need as to an extent, coaching is coaching and if you're good at it then you're good at it. But I just think there is a huge difference between coaching a bunch of kids, most who have no chance at a career in the NFL and coaching a team of professionals.
Ferentz coached offensive line under BB in Cleveland. That's where he got the tie to Pioli in the first place.

MahiMike 12-12-2011 08:44 PM
I'd be ok with that. Better than Ronald McDaniels.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-12-2011 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8197932)
Iowa isn't a premiere college program, and that's precisely why he's continuously mentioned as a candidate for NFL jobs. He's had a pretty good streak at a upper-middle class school.
I guess I don't get it then. Thanks for the serious response.

Brock 12-12-2011 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by beer me (Post 8197942)
I guess I don't get it then. Thanks for the serious response.
You don't get what? That he usually overachieves with lesser teams than bigger schools usually have?

htismaqe 12-12-2011 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8197923)
I'm not too familiar with Ferentz so someone educate me more, please. Does Iowa run a pro-system? I know they beat MU but that was more on Gabbert as opposed to Iowa.

I am just nervous about brining up a college level coach. Pete Carrol and the Fun-N-Gun guy come to mind everytime I think about it.
Iowa runs a pro-style offense, run heavy, playaction passing, zone blocking. Very much like a Mike Shanahan offense.

They run a base 4-3 defense with almost no blitzing. In fact, they don't even use situational packages most of the time.

All of that being said, his OC and DC have near complete autonomy.

htismaqe 12-12-2011 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by beer me (Post 8197942)
I guess I don't get it then. Thanks for the serious response.
One top 20 recruiting class in 13 years yet 6-3 in bowl games, 2 Big10 co-championships, an Orange Bowl, #8 in the final AP poll 3 years in a row, and the list goes on...

petegz28 12-12-2011 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8197938)
Ferentz coached offensive line under BB in Cleveland. That's where he got the tie to Pioli in the first place.
Ah, ok. Makes sense, fortunately and otherwise, I guess.

petegz28 12-12-2011 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8197946)
Iowa runs a pro-style offense, run heavy, playaction passing, zone blocking. Very much like a Mike Shanahan offense.

They run a base 4-3 defense with almost no blitzing. In fact, they don't even use situational packages most of the time.

All of that being said, his OC and DC have near complete autonomy.
Well, that is encouraging. I like the the offensive philosophy and I think it fits our personel, especially if Cassel returns. I like the autonomy part as well. That is how a good coach should operate, imo. You hired these guys to do a job, let them do it. As long as he doesn't have a problem if Romeo says, we're built for a 3-4 no matter how much you want a 4-3 then I feel slightly better about it.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-12-2011 08:51 PM
I don't see how he could be any worse than Haley, but I am not a fan.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-12-2011 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8197953)
One top 20 recruiting class in 13 years yet 6-3 in bowl games, 2 Big10 co-championships, an Orange Bowl, #8 in the final AP poll 3 years in a row, and the list goes on...
Gotcha thanks.

ChiefsCountry 12-12-2011 08:53 PM
Ferentz to me is the conservative version of Dick Vermeil. CEO type as a head coach very similar to Vermeil. Build a strong staff, which we have the makings of in place right now IMO espeically on defense.

CreightonChief 12-12-2011 08:54 PM
Ferentz is overrated....

He's loses to teams with less talent on a regular basis (Iowa State/Northwestern).

splatbass 12-12-2011 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8197918)
I just want a guy who has actually been a part of the NFL.
Ferentz was an assistant coach with the Browns and the Ravens (the same team actually, he was there when they moved to Baltimore). I'm not saying I want to hire him (I don't know anything about him) just pointing that out.


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