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Marcellus 12-19-2011 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8220968)
Your free to move to any of those countries anytime.
Another great thing about America, you can leave any time you want. :D

chasedude 12-19-2011 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8220950)
It is the pledge of allegiance that you put your hand over your heart, not the anthem.

Finally someone got it right.

patteeu 12-19-2011 08:48 PM
Civilians are supposed to put hand over heart for the anthem too.

Marcellus 12-19-2011 08:53 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code
Pledge of Allegiance and National Anthem

  • When reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, all present should stand at attention facing the flag with their right hand over their heart, with the exception of those in uniform who shall salute.
  • When the national anthem is played or sung:
  1. Designation: The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
  2. Conduct During Playing: During a rendition of the national anthem:
    1. When the flag is displayed:
      1. All present except those in uniform should stand at attention with their right hand over the heart.<sup id="cite_ref-12" class="reference">[13]</sup>
      2. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder,
      3. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present and not in uniform may render the military salute.
      4. Individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
    2. When the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
    3. The musician or musicians performing should sit or stand as they ordinarily would to perform on their instrument or voice.

crazycoffey 12-19-2011 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8221005)
Civilians are supposed to put hand over heart for the anthem too.
that's what I thought too, and
military members in uniform salute
military members in civilian attire can put hand over hear, stand at attention or parade rest.

crazycoffey 12-19-2011 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8220958)
Patriotism, in my view, should be grounded by your alignment with the ideas that your country espouses. It should never merely be a product of living in said country.

Me thinks there's a significant difference between loving one's country and loving one's child.
Would you ever put your country BEFORE your child?



What have you to say about people who don't believe America represents the freedom that their patriotism is rooted in?

There have been times in our country's history where putting your child first is accomplished by putting your country first.

And yes I have, I have missed precious moments with my children to wear a uniform in another country in duty to our United States.

RealSNR 12-19-2011 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8220967)
Canada has high taxes, shitty socialized healthcare, does not allow foreign workers and mandates that radio stations play at least 33% Canadian artist.

They tax the shit out of alcohol and tobacco.

While they have the same basic "freedoms" its way more socialist.

The other countries you listed (besides Belize because I don't know) have much higher taxes as well.
Okay. I'll give you taxes. I'll also give you another country.

Netherlands.

I can smoke a joint on the street in Amsterdam, but I can't even do that in my own ****ing living room in the United States. What gives, huh? Home of the free, you say?

RealSNR 12-19-2011 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8220968)
Your free to move to any of those countries anytime.
You're mother

Marcellus 12-19-2011 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8221033)
Okay. I'll give you taxes. I'll also give you another country.

Netherlands.

I can smoke a joint on the street in Amsterdam, but I can't even do that in my own ****ing living room in the United States. What gives, huh? Home of the free, you say?
Amsterdam is a bit of a mess from what I understand though I can't say I know from first hand experience.
C
an you imagine having to listen to 33% Canadian bands all the time?

Holy shit Nickleback, Rush, and Celine Deion all the time. Ahhhhhhhhh.

RealSNR 12-19-2011 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8221045)
Amsterdam is a bit of a mess from what I understand though I can't say I know from first hand experience.
C
an you imagine having to listen to 33% Canadian bands all the time?

Holy shit Nickleback, Rush, and Celine Deion all the time. Ahhhhhhhhh.
Do classical music stations in Canada have to play 33% Canadian composers? Do Canadian classical music artists count?

They must listen to a lot of Glenn Gould in Canada :eek:

crazycoffey 12-19-2011 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8221033)
Okay. I'll give you taxes. I'll also give you another country.

Netherlands.

I can smoke a joint on the street in Amsterdam, but I can't even do that in my own ****ing living room in the United States. What gives, huh? Home of the free, you say?
yes, because smoking a joint is the epitome of freedom... :facepalm:

Anyway, weed isn't legal in Amsterdam, it's been decriminalized and there are coffee shops you can smoke it, but you're not supposed to smoke it in the street.....

Have you ever been to Amsterdam? Europe? Do you only know what you read on the interweb? LMAO

Ming the Merciless 12-19-2011 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8221033)
Okay. I'll give you taxes. I'll also give you another country.

Netherlands.
33.5%, 42%, 42%, and 52% tax rates plus another 19% sales tax on many goods

If I was a stoner, I'd rather move to one of many states where it is legal to get high..

Although the Netherlands is beautiful....I could go for summers there and winters elsewhere 8-)

crazycoffey 12-19-2011 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8221033)
Okay. I'll give you taxes. I'll also give you another country.

Netherlands.

I can smoke a joint on the street in Amsterdam, but I can't even do that in my own ****ing living room in the United States. What gives, huh? Home of the free, you say?
Hell, cocaine is legal in Mexico - guess that means Mexico is more free than America.... ROFL

RealSNR 12-19-2011 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 8221092)
Hell, cocaine is legal in Mexico - guess that means Mexico is more free than America.... ROFL
I'm talking about freedom, dude. Why the **** should I give a shit about a country that shoves words like "freedom" in my face 24/7, but then restricts so many things I want to do?

Marcellus 12-19-2011 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8221108)
I'm talking about freedom, dude. Why the **** should I give a shit about a country that shoves words like "freedom" in my face 24/7, but then restricts so many things I want to do?
You do realize everyone just being able to do what they want would make the world an even bigger ****ed up mess?

Part of democracy is supposed to be allowing what the majority deems acceptable (even though there is some argument that that's not even the case anymore.)

Go to Somalia, I am pretty sure you can do whatever you feel like there. Great place to live.


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