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Mellinger: Chiefs need to make fixes, but not at head coach (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=254468)

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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 8259691)

IGive him credit he canned a horrible hire in Haley in the middle of the season.

Why would I give him credit for a move that could have been (and most likely was) completely self-serving?

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8259710)

Several of the vets complained about Vermeil the whole time he was here. Willie Roaf retired rather than deal with that training camp again.

Maybe, but Roaf retired with Vermeil.

Too bad, he would have loved Club Herm.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8259712)

Why would I give him credit for a move that could have been (and most likely was) completely self-serving?

The signing of Orton and firing of Haley gave KC a legit shot at making the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8259710)

Several of the vets complained about Vermeil the whole time he was here. Willie Roaf retired rather than deal with that training camp again.

I think that was Shields.

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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 8259691)

I'm a season ticket holder, I DON't want Pioli gone. You don't build a winning football franchise by replacing GMs every 3rd season. Pioli has not done an amazing job, but he has not been nearly as bad as many on the Planet rant about.

Give him credit he canned a horrible hire in Haley in the middle of the season. Most would not make such a move. He had a solid drafts with the exception of his first, where he went to work very late in process. He has made some solid FA signings.....Breaston & Siler.
He has hired some good coaches (except Hali), Crennel DC, Weiss OC, Thomas DBs.

I really see 3 significant errors; 1. Hiring Haley. 2. Leting Haley go with Muir as defacto OC. 3. Jackson with his 1st pick, he was a huge reach.

Many would say Cassell is a huge mistake. I don't think so. Cassell looked like he might be a quality QB the season he played for the Partiots. He was acquired for the right price and it just did not pan out. It happens all the time in the NFL. The mistake will be if they bring him back.

I'm probably in the minority, but I think Pioli has done a solid job. Not a miracle worker, but a solid job. Give him a B. However, if he does not move on let the Cassel era end then he will quickly turn the B into an F.

Pioli hired Haley. And you want to give him "credit" for firing him after he turned out to be lousy? Really? It seems to me that Pioli is using Haley as a convenient scapegoat to cover up his other various mistakes.

And how in hell does anybody justify Cassel's contract as "the right price"?

Your last sentence is rather telling in that regard. You've already detailed Pioli's worst mistakes as his first three important moves as the Chiefs new GM... Hiring Haley, Trading for Cassel, and selecting TJack with #3 overall. And you finish your statement saying if he doesn't also admit his mistake with Cassel and cut him, that you'll then give him a failing grade.

2 out of 3 of Pioli's first major moves for the franchise, and you're trying to give him props for admitting to one of the failures and "hopefully" admitting to the other.

I don't get it....

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8254679)

The Charger players LOVE Norv Turner.

Herm Edwards and Pete Carroll approve this message.

"The offensive line was perfectly healthy, for instance, and it stunk for most of the season."

For you Milkman - with lots of love...

whoever the LB coach is probably deserves a promotion or even the CB's coach, is it still Emmit Thomas? that would be cool to see him as DC

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8259748)

"The offensive line was perfectly healthy, for instance, and it stunk for most of the season."

For you Milkman - with lots of love...

Mellinger is an idiot. Really. Listen to the guy on the radio.

The crop of available coaches is so bad, I don't see why Romeo shouldn't get hired.

Yeah, he has the support of the team, but I really don't think that's a negative. The defense continued to improve, he actually beat playoff teams, which is something Haley and Cassel couldn't and the staff is going to get overhauled.

I'm not as down on McDaniels as many, but I don't think for a minute that McDaniels = Cassel.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8254665)

If the players want him THIS bad, there is NO WAY you hire him. None.

This story does not end well.

Exactly, if you ignore history, you are destined to repeat it.

They were EXACTLY like this for Frank Ganz, and to a slightly lesser degree, Gunther.

I love me some Romeo Crennel, but now I think hiring him as HC is a mistake.

Maybe Crennel hires Todd Haley to be the OC?

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8259782)

whoever the LB coach is probably deserves a promotion or even the CB's coach, is it still Emmit Thomas? that would be cool to see him as DC

I promised myself long ago that I wouldn't get involved in these discussions, but you're the first one I've seen with this suggestion to promote ET to DC. It's a damn good one IMO.

As far as Crennel goes, there's not a whole lot to get excited about whether he gets the job or not. If it's for the right reasons, then fine. If not, Pioli will bear the brunt. It's his reputation on the line, and I know he's very concerned about his image and that alone will prompt him to do what's best for the team. If you take away Pioli's first year and chalk it up to him learning to fly solo, then he hasn't been that bad. Sure, we don't want mediocrity at all, but this is interesting. There are many possible outcomes based on the decisions being made right now and it all falls on Pioli IMO. Time to sink or swim.....

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8259819)

I'd actually be ok with Romeo + McDaniels if Cassel wasn't part of that equation....I'm just deathly afraid that Pioli simply cannot pass up on his Patriots west wet dream.

I hope I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8259819)

but I don't think for a minute that McDaniels = Cassel.

Please elaborate.

I do not want Cassel here either...but with Cassel, "Pioli's guy", coupled with the the success McDaniels had with Cassel in the past...it would almost be a guarantee that Cassel would be the starter under McDaniels. I don't see how you could view it otherwise...

-Now-

PLEASE...tell me why I am wrong. :)