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O.city 01-24-2012 06:54 PM

He does have to raise his elbow a little above the ball to get it out, which is a little winduppy but he has more than enough velocity for it to work.

ToxSocks 01-24-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8324375)
Point me in the direction of a QB who throws the ball from his chest.

:facepalm:

His throwing motion is wound up and elongated. FFS, look at the first pass he throws in that clip you posted, he even has the same damn leg lift on his follow through.

His mechanics are practically on par with Cassel's.

He bounces around in the pocket and does not look poised at all.

jd1020 01-24-2012 06:57 PM

Matt Cassel throwing a 50ish yard TD pass.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantas...-39-yd-pass-TD

Please point out to me where the TD Cousins threw at :30 in the clip I posted looks anything even remotely close to this slow arching pos.

ToxSocks 01-24-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8324380)
He does have to raise his elbow a little above the ball to get it out, which is a little winduppy but he has more than enough velocity for it to work.

Cassel puts some good velocity on his windup passes as well.

The problem isn't the velocity. It's the release. That windup gives DB's more time to break on the ball.

It's a HUGE problem for Cassel and has been pointed out here a ton.

But all of a sudden it's ok for Cousins, because he's not Cassel?


:facepalm:

O.city 01-24-2012 07:01 PM

Cousins has more of a wind up than Cassel, but has a ton more arm strength.

ToxSocks 01-24-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8324385)

Please point out to me where the TD Cousins threw at :30 in the clip I posted looks anything even remotely close to this slow arching pos.

Oh, are you talking about the play where your boy rolled right INTO the ****ing sack but was bailed out by his lineman? THAT play?

Not to mention the shit job he did on the play action. Dude didn't sell it worth shit, ala Cassel.

O.city 01-24-2012 07:05 PM

Cassels problem is really a combination of things.

He has the slow release/windup which allows dbs to break on the ball, he doesn't have the arm strength to get past that, and when he does muster up enough strength to get it there it isn't near accurate enough.

Add that with his poor vision and you have a recipe for suc......disaster.

jd1020 01-24-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8324396)
Oh, are you talking about the play where your boy rolled right INTO the ****ing sack but was bailed out by his lineman? THAT play?

Not to mention the shit job he did on the play action. Dude didn't sell it worth shit, ala Cassel.

How does one get bailed out by someone who didn't even touch the guy who was near the QB until he was 10 yards in the backfield?

Cassel doesn't have near the arm strength as Cousins. Cassel isn't accurate. Cassel can't read more than 1 route. Cassel didn't start at QB in college.

Willie Lanier 01-24-2012 07:10 PM

Just watched some of the practice, Rainey from FLA looks like a burner that could be developed...

The guard from Georgia looked good too...

ToxSocks 01-24-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8324409)
How does one get bailed out by someone who didn't even touch the guy who was near the QB until he was 10 yards in the backfield?

Cassel doesn't have near the arm strength as Cousins. Cassel isn't accurate. Cassel can't read more than 1 route. Cassel didn't start at QB in college.

Dude....he rolled right into it. Had he not received that block he would've been crushed. Must be that great awareness of his, right? FFS, even the commentators mention it.

If you cant even see THAT...then I really have nothing left to say to you anymore.

Your boy has his Warts. Deal with it.

Just because I point them out you have to get all defensive.....lol.


Do you see me over here getting all Anal because i may have been wrong about Lindley?

He has his warts, warts that I've acknowledged numerous times BEFORE, let me emphasis the BEFORE part again, BEFORE the senior bowl.

Yet you wanna try to throw that shit back in my face like it means something? ROFL.

O.city 01-24-2012 07:15 PM

What do you guys think of Mike Adams if he last to he second to play RT?

jd1020 01-24-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8324427)
Dude....he rolled right into it. Had he not received that block he would've been crushed. Must be that great awareness of his, right? FFS, even the commentators mention it.

If you cant even see THAT...then I really have nothing left to say to you anymore.

Your boy has his Warts. Deal with it.

Just because I point them out you have to get all defensive.....lol.


Do you see me over here getting all Anal because i may have been wrong about Lindley?

He has his warts, warts that I've acknowledged numerous times BEFORE, let me emphasis the BEFORE part again, BEFORE the senior bowl.

Yet you wanna try to throw that shit back in my face like it means something? ROFL.

When did I ever say Cousins was perfect?

If he was he'd be going #1 instead of Luck.

I've simply said I'd like the Chiefs to go after Cousins because of 2 reasons.

1) The Chiefs aren't drafting a QB in the first round.
2) Cousins is not going to be drafted in the first round. He might not even be drafted on day 2.

The only thing you can come up with against him is "Cassel." Too bad anyone with credibility has said the opposite.

O.city 01-24-2012 07:29 PM

I like Cousins alot. Anyway he makes it to the 4 round?

jd1020 01-24-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8324461)
I like Cousins alot. Anyway he makes it to the 4 round?

He is in the group of QBs projected to go on the second day. But I doubt it.

If he keeps on impressing like he is he's going to be the Dalton/Kaepernick of 2012.

Both of those guys were in the 2nd day group but they emerged as the best out of the group and went early.

DaKCMan AP 01-24-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 8324413)
Just watched some of the practice, Rainey from FLA looks like a burner that could be developed...

Developed into what?


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