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DaKCMan AP 02-01-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8342041)
UGA 8th.......in the SEC? LOL ok Rivals.

Only reason Mizzou's team ranking is so low across the board is because their class size is small compared to other SEC schools...5-10 more recruits and they'd be a lot higher.

Still way low according to Rivals even with what they got.

I'd agree with this more if their average star rating was higher. They're 10th in the SEC in that category and of the 12 SEC teams I listed the average class size is 22, so theirs isn't significantly smaller.

BigRedChief 02-01-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8342067)
I'd agree with this more if their average star rating was higher. They're 10th in the SEC in that category and of the 12 SEC teams I listed the average class size is 22, so theirs isn't significantly smaller.

I figured you would be in here giving the SEC credit for the signing. :rolleyes:

DaKCMan AP 02-01-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8342080)
I figured you would be in here giving the SEC credit for the signing. :rolleyes:

Come on, Doug. I said no such thing.

Titty Meat 02-01-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8342041)
UGA 8th.......in the SEC? LOL ok Rivals.

Only reason Mizzou's team ranking is so low across the board is because their class size is small compared to other SEC schools...5-10 more recruits and they'd be a lot higher.

Still way low according to Rivals even with what they got.

I don't understand this. Mizzou got the #1 recruit and the highest rated o-linemen in the schools history yet they are rated behind Nebraska who only has 16 commits.

NewChief 02-01-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 8342043)
I don't see Arkansas as a second-rate program. It wouldn't surprise me, though, to see him get lured to somewhere like Texas when there is an opening.

When you listen on talk radio today to people justifying the recruiting class, people were recalling the days when were were competing against schools like UTEP, SMU, and Tulsa for recruits. This recruiting class, despite being a "bust," is the 3rd best in the last decade, and the two in front of it both came under Petrino. You've got to understand that Arkansans have a chip on their shoulder because they have little man syndrome. The entire state is constantly dismissed (not just in athletics) as being backwards, inbred, poor, etc... While among ourselves we think it's pretty funny, and we are thankful in some ways (especially up here in Fayetteville) that the joys of the state are undiscovered, we also get defensive after a while. We make jokes to outsiders about it (at church camp in Texas, we'd tell other kids that we had to buy shoes to leave the state because we all go barefoot back home), but we still have a chip on our shoulder and want credit. That's why so many Arkansans are so ****ing earnest and wacky online, imo. They take sports seriously because it's about more than sports to them.

As for him getting lured to Texas, I suppose that could happen. I could be totally misreading him, but I think he has everything he wants here: total control, huge bankroll for facilities, and a place to really put his stamp on as "his" school. Anywhere else he goes, he's going to be a footnote or just another "great" coach. At Arkansas, he can be THE GREAT coach. Of course, that's all assuming we continue to ascend and compete year after year. Like I said, a few bad years could certainly sour the milk.

beer bacon 02-01-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8342067)
I'd agree with this more if their average star rating was higher. They're 10th in the SEC in that category and of the 12 SEC teams I listed the average class size is 22, so theirs isn't significantly smaller.

If MU had a few more recruits they would have a good shot at jumping Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Arkansas. If you go look at the rankings, Vandy is 29th, MSU 30th, Arkansas 31st, and MU 32nd. Vandy and MU are separated by 80 points, which is the equivalent to a few mid three stars.

DaKCMan AP 02-01-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 8342185)
If MU had a few more recruits they would have a good shot at jumping Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Arkansas. If you go look at the rankings, Vandy is 29th, MSU 30th, Arkansas 31st, and MU 32nd. Vandy and MU are separated by 80 points, which is the equivalent to a few mid three stars.

I don't disagree. Mizzou should have better recruiting classes than Vandy and MSU.

NewChief 02-01-2012 08:33 PM

I haven't read all the articles, but...


Is the general impression that Mizzou's move to the SEC helped DGB make the decision to go there... or would they have a really good shot even without the move?

DaKCMan AP 02-01-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 8342209)
I haven't read all the articles, but...


Is the general impression that Mizzou's move to the SEC helped DGB make the decision to go there... or would they have a really good shot even without the move?

I don't know what other people are saying, but I doubt the SEC move really mattered that much in this case. Mizzou's the in-state school, has been recruiting him for years, and has an offensive system that he fits.

Titty Meat 02-01-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 8342138)
When you listen on talk radio today to people justifying the recruiting class, people were recalling the days when were were competing against schools like UTEP, SMU, and Tulsa for recruits. This recruiting class, despite being a "bust," is the 3rd best in the last decade, and the two in front of it both came under Petrino. You've got to understand that Arkansans have a chip on their shoulder because they have little man syndrome. The entire state is constantly dismissed (not just in athletics) as being backwards, inbred, poor, etc... While among ourselves we think it's pretty funny, and we are thankful in some ways (especially up here in Fayetteville) that the joys of the state are undiscovered, we also get defensive after a while. We make jokes to outsiders about it (at church camp in Texas, we'd tell other kids that we had to buy shoes to leave the state because we all go barefoot back home), but we still have a chip on our shoulder and want credit. That's why so many Arkansans are so ****ing earnest and wacky online, imo. They take sports seriously because it's about more than sports to them.

As for him getting lured to Texas, I suppose that could happen. I could be totally misreading him, but I think he has everything he wants here: total control, huge bankroll for facilities, and a place to really put his stamp on as "his" school. Anywhere else he goes, he's going to be a footnote or just another "great" coach. At Arkansas, he can be THE GREAT coach. Of course, that's all assuming we continue to ascend and compete year after year. Like I said, a few bad years could certainly sour the milk.

Petrino is a douche and Arkansas uses shady tactics.

NewChief 02-01-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8342213)
I don't know what other people are saying, but I doubt the SEC move really mattered that much in this case. Mizzou's the in-state school, has been recruiting him for years, and has an offensive system that he fits.

Just an uninformed opinion, but to me it seems that it worked as an equalizer. Being in the SEC was something Arkansas had going for it that Mizzou didn't. Now that Mizzou is in the SEC, that distinction no longer exists. Same thing for A&M. I guess I'm getting a little nervous about UofA recruiting with new members of the conference moving in from two new states that surround us. I suppose it's a two-way street, though. UofA will also get more exposure in those states now.

NewChief 02-01-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8342220)
Petrino is a douche and Arkansas uses shady tactics.

Sure thing Pelini.

Titty Meat 02-01-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 8342227)
Sure thing Pelini.

All it took to get Tevin Mitchell was a job for his mom.

NewChief 02-01-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8342236)
All it took to get Tevin Mitchell was a job for his mom.

Ahh. I see you have some personal butthurt in this. I didn't even realize that we'd stolen a prized precious Husker recruit. Maybe all it took to steal Tevin Mitchel was to be relevant in the current college football landscape. :p

And yes, I'm still annoyed by Husker fans due to the douche I argued with at the first of the season who assured me Arkansas would suck in 2011 because Mallett was our whole team and losing him would wreck the program. And he assured me that he was from Nebraska, so he LIVES college football and knows what he's talking about.

Saul Good 02-01-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8342200)
I don't disagree. Mizzou should have better recruiting classes than Vandy and MSU.

You've got to consider the recruiting landscape, though. Mizzou spent a year or even more in some cases recruiting players to a Big XII school. Texas is our biggest state to recruit from, and we successfully used the pitch that the kids could play in Texas several times over their time at Mizzou.

When we left to the SEC, all the Texas kids who signed on to Mizzou because of their ability to play in Texas suddenly had no compelling reason to stay. There are plenty of kids who will want to play for Mizzou in the SEC. We'll just have to target those kids in the future.


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