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cabletech94 02-12-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8367729)
We just signed Orton.

que es esto?

Mr_Tomahawk 02-12-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8367733)
Nah just playing.

Bannable.

chiefzilla1501 02-12-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8367728)
Been coming across a handful of articles favoring the Orton to Washington move...here is one of them.

I really hope we sign him as he seems to be the most realistic upgrade at the moment...



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...el1Q_blog.html

Posted at 01:24 PM ET, 02/09/2012
Why signing Kyle Orton would make sense for the Redskins
By Mike Jones
It definitely wouldn’t make the headline splash of bringing Peyton Manning to town, but the Washington Redskins might be better off going after Kyle Orton as they look for a solution to the quarterback position.

Not much is better than a healthy Peyton Manning, but at this point, no one knows whether Manning can regain his health, whether he even will be available, and whether he even wants to come to Washington.

Landing Orton involves less risk and could ensure better continuity for a number of reasons, however.

Don’t get me wrong, Orton is no franchise quarterback. A seven-year veteran, Orton has played a full season only once in his career, and twice he played 15 games. But the Purdue product is a solid quarterback who limits his mistakes and has the ability to keep a team in the game.

The Redskins still need to draft a quarterback — whether they trade up for Robert Griffin III or take someone like Ryan Tannehill in the second round — and Orton would make a better bridge than Rex Grossman.

Grossman had the respect of his Redskins teammates and coaches because he’s fearless, hangs tough and fires the ball downfield even though he knows a big hit is coming, and because he puts receivers in position to make plays. But he doesn’t have a conscience, makes poor decisions and too often keeps opponents in the games as well.

So the Redskins most likely have gotten as far as they can with Grossman. An outside chance remains that he would return, but it won’t shock anyone if Mike Shanahan & Co. opt to go in another direction.

When it comes to ability, Orton isn’t all that different from Grossman and is actually a little better.

In 54 NFL games, Grossman has completed 55.2 percent of his passes for 10,232 yards (189.5 ypg). He has thrown 56 touchdowns and 60 interceptions. He owns a career passer rating of 71.4.

Orton has played in 71 games and is a 58.3-percent passer. He has thrown for 14,532 yards (204.7 ypg) and 80 touchdowns, with 57 interceptions, and has a 79.4 passer rating.

That touchdown-to-interception column is the difference.

The Redskins would be able to bring in Orton, coach him up, plug him into the system and basically keep the system intact. The acquisition of Manning would require all sorts of modifications.

Orton likely would be cheaper than Manning, as well. He had a base salary of $4.5 million last year, and probably would come at a similar price. That contract could include escalators that could increase it to $8 million to $9 million depending on how much he plays and how well he does.

Mike Shanahan has said repeatedly that getting a quarterback won’t solve everything. He has added that the key to helping a young quarterback — or any passer, for that matter — is assembling a strong supporting cast.

Signing Orton to a modest deal could still allow the Redskins to meet other needs. They need a big-play receiver, and the top two on the market, San Diego’s Vincent Jackson and Indianapolis’ Pierre Garcon, won’t come cheap. Washington also needs a right tackle, could need a left guard, and on defense must re-sign London Fletcher and address the safety and nickel back positions.

The Redskins, entering Shanahan’s third season, could get a solid veteran in Orton and remain competitive while, at the same time, grooming a rookie who could take the keys in another year or so.

I don't know why people think this is a good option for Shanahan. Shanahan likes a QB that can move around. Orton is a statue in the pocket. If there was ever a perfect fit for him to use as a stopgap, hell, trading a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Cassel will get that done for him a lot better.

kysirsoze 02-12-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8367731)
?

Nut hooks?

This.

O.city 02-12-2012 02:13 PM

I think Vince Young would be perfect for the Shanny offense.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-12-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8367733)
Nah just playing.

Dude, you're a good poster, but cmon man you know better than that. You'd have been banned if you had said they cut Cassel.

O.city 02-12-2012 03:34 PM

I knew Tomahawk was trolling around in this thread, just wanted to get a rise out of him.


By bad though.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-12-2012 03:36 PM

How was I trolling this thread?

O.city 02-12-2012 03:39 PM

Trolling around was a bad use of words.

I knew you were reading this thread, just giving you a jilt

Sorry, was playing a joke on ya. My fault apologies in order.

NJChiefsFan 02-13-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8367884)
Dude, you're a good poster, but cmon man you know better than that. You'd have been banned if you had said they cut Cassel.

If somebody manages to make it seem legit that Matt was cut and it turns out it was a joke, I don't think banning is bad enough. Physical harm should come to them.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-13-2012 07:19 PM

abORTON?

Mr_Tomahawk 02-19-2012 08:11 AM

Orton, Campbell forgotten men among free agent quarterbacks
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-quarterbacks/

Orton, Campbell forgotten men among free agent quarterbacks

The Peyton Manning story will be a daily soap opera for most of the offseason. Matt Flynn is this year’s Kevin Kolb. Drew Brees and Alex Smith aren’t going anywhere.

After those four men, there hasn’t been a lot of talk about free agent quarterbacks.

We’d argue that two players — Kyle Orton and Jason Campbell — would be better options than Flynn all money considered.

Are Orton and Campbell ever going to be top-10 quarterbacks?

Probably not, but the same holds true for Flynn. Orton and Campbell can perform at a competent level for a cheap price and win games if they have the right team around them. Teams like Washington, Miami, Cleveland, and even Jacksonville have to think about adding a veteran like them to the mix. Only one team gets Manning.

After Orton and Campbell, there are some wild cards. Chad Henne, Vince Young, Josh Johnson, and David Garrard should all get work.

We predicted where Manning, Flynn, and the two Rodney Dangerfields of this free agent class would end up on NBC SportsTalk.

Extra Point 02-23-2012 10:47 PM

Would Pioli be pressing to get two draft picks for trading Orton?

BossChief 02-24-2012 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Extra Point (Post 8394491)
Would Pioli be pressing to get two draft picks for trading Orton?

Oh ****, not this shit again.

bevischief 02-24-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Extra Point (Post 8394491)
Would Pioli be pressing to get two draft picks for trading Orton?

He is a free agent dumbass. He can go where the hell he wants.


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