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Bewbies 04-08-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8526804)
Kuechly is big enough to be a thumper, I just don't know that he can do it. I think he's smart enough and skilled enough.

And Curry was fast enough to rush the passer it is just that his coach didn't ask him to.

Urc Burry 04-08-2012 09:28 PM

DJ isn't getting any younger. Will be 30 this year. I know it's not even close to consider finding a replacement, but Kuechly could slide right over when the time is right.

Direckshun 04-08-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8526827)
And Curry was fast enough to rush the passer it is just that his coach didn't ask him to.

Apples.

Oranges.

You're teh stupid.

Bewbies 04-08-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8526893)
Apples.

Oranges.

You're teh stupid.

Stupid, yes. I'm talking about the debate not the player.

milkman 04-08-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8526893)
Apples.

Oranges.

You're teh stupid.

He's not comparing players, dipshit.

Direckshun 04-08-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8526908)
He's not comparing players, dipshit.

If you're trying to say that an argument that applied to one player could apply to another player, you're comparing players.

Unless there's some other ethereal argument that's transcended the mortal world that he's trying to make.

milkman 04-09-2012 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8526954)
If you're trying to say that an argument that applied to one player could apply to another player, you're comparing players.

Unless there's some other ethereal argument that's transcended the mortal world that he's trying to make.

JFC, how do some of you people even find the brain cells to crawl your dumb asses out of bed in the morning?

In 2009, it was argued by Curry supporters that Curry hd the talent to rush the passer, but that he was not asked to do that in college.

Those of us that argued against Curry said that his play on the field did not support that argument, and that you were simply projecting.

The argument today by Kuechly supporters is that he has the talent to be a thumper.

Those of us arguing against Kuechly are telling you that his play on the field does not support that argument, and that you are simply projecting.

The players are not being compared.

The arguments are being compared.

jspchief 04-09-2012 01:51 AM

What is this conviction that one of our ILBs has to be a "thumper"?

Kuechly is likely and upgrade at the position in every possible way, except for this "thumping" concept.

Am I supposed to believe that the team wouldn't benefit from an ILB with better athleticism and awareness because he doesn't crash into plays with reckless abandon?

For every play that depends on Belcher's ability to "thump", how many plays weren't made for his inability to do the things Kuechly can?

If you want to argue positional value of ILB at 11, fine. But to dismiss upgrading one of the few spots on our D simply because the.LB doesn't play like a ****ing FB is stupid.

Mr. Arrowhead 04-09-2012 11:40 AM

Doesnt this guy pretty play the same exact position that DJ plays?

Chiefnj2 04-09-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8524701)
Yet, not a single TE had more than 100 yards receiving, and only 1 TE had more than 6 catches.

But he's terrible in pass coverage.

It's a ****ing myth being perpetuated by dumbasses.

So you want to bring back Sabby and McGraw since they did such a good job limiting TE's on passing downs?

Chief Roundup 04-09-2012 03:42 PM

Why is there always people trying to turn a square peg into a doll rod.

milkman 04-09-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8527104)
What is this conviction that one of our ILBs has to be a "thumper"?

Kuechly is likely and upgrade at the position in every possible way, except for this "thumping" concept.

Am I supposed to believe that the team wouldn't benefit from an ILB with better athleticism and awareness because he doesn't crash into plays with reckless abandon?

For every play that depends on Belcher's ability to "thump", how many plays weren't made for his inability to do the things Kuechly can?

If you want to argue positional value of ILB at 11, fine. But to dismiss upgrading one of the few spots on our D simply because the.LB doesn't play like a ****ing FB is stupid.

My argument has been that Belcher is an ascending player, and that he is improving in every aspect.

And yes, you do need a thumper.

He was taking out blockers, allowing DJ to make a number of plays.

milkman 04-09-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8527498)
So you want to bring back Sabby and McGraw since they did such a good job limiting TE's on passing downs?

You're the dumbass that keeps assigning blame for TEs raping our defense, which is a ****ing joke.

Micjones 04-11-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8528723)
My argument has been that Belcher is an ascending player, and that he is improving in every aspect.

And yes, you do need a thumper.

He was taking out blockers, allowing DJ to make a number of plays.

Can't understand why everyone is so quick to want to replace Belcher.
I think he's improved and is playing very good football.

ChiefMojo 04-11-2012 08:32 PM

Mike Mayock just said on Path to the Draft tonight that Luke Kuechly is not only the cleanest player (no red flags) in this years draft but is the best zone drop back pass coverage ILB he has ever seen on tape. Says he is the very rare ILB that is a three down player that will succeed in pass coverage. Only real weakness is he can be covered up by some OL along the line of scrimmage.

Rates Kuechly his #6 overall prospect.


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