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cosmo20002 12-09-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262918)
It's a small market. The margin for error, when it comes to filling the stadium, is razor thing.

And yes, you did see a reason. I posted it, ITEMIZED, in post #56.

Even better, you QUOTED post #56.

Why should I have to repeat myself over and over just to satisfy you're utterly stupid line of questioning?

Go back to DC dipshit. You don't belong in a football discussion.

So, they haven't drafted a great QB because they are a Midwest team in a smaller market? Because the fans don't care about winning?

This isn't a football discussion. This is a discussion about losers and conspiracy theories and how they follow a team and a sport despite thinking the whole thing is rigged with winners and losers pre-determined.

htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262929)
So, they haven't drafted a great QB because they are a Midwest team in a smaller market? Because the fans don't care about winning?

This isn't a football discussion. This is a discussion about losers and conspiracy theories and how they follow a team and a sport despite thinking the whole thing is rigged with winners and losers pre-determined.

I never said any of those things. Those are all things you inferred based on things other people said.

I said the cards are stacked against them. And they are.

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262932)
I never said any of those things. Those are all things you inferred based on things other people said.

I said the cards are stacked against them. And they are.

:banghead:

So what is the reason the Chiefs haven't drafted a good QB? Because the cards are stacked against them? What does that mean in regards to drafting a good QB?

htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262937)
:banghead:

So what is the reason the Chiefs haven't drafted a good QB? Because the cards are stacked against them? What does that mean in regards to drafting a good QB?

Because EVERY decision the Chiefs make, personnel-wise and otherwise, is weighted against those factors. Financials, fan base, etc. It tends over time to produce low risk, low reward behavior.

ILChief 12-09-2013 09:28 AM

Man if we'd have only drafted Christian Ponder we'd be a dynasty

htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10262947)
Man if we'd have only drafted Christian Ponder we'd be a dynasty

The best straw man ever.

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262940)
Because EVERY decision the Chiefs make, personnel-wise and otherwise, is weighted against those factors. Financials, fan base, etc. It tends over time to produce low risk, low reward behavior.

It's generally too early to be drunk, so you have to just be dumb.
I asked why the Chiefs haven't drafted a good QB. Your answer is a bunch of gibberish.

htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262951)
It's generally too early to be drunk, so you have to just be dumb.
I asked why the Chiefs haven't drafted a good QB. Your answer is a bunch of gibberish.

ROFL

You're a bigger ****ing moron than I originally thought.

-King- 12-09-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262953)
ROFL

You're a bigger ****ing moron than I originally thought.

No you're just not making any sense right now.
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Bearcat 12-09-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262919)
That makes absolutely no sense. You're under the impression that there have been a lot of butts in the seats the last few seasons?

They obviously had much bigger issues, and there were still ~63,000 seats accounted for in the last home game of the season last season, even if some of those were paid for by KCTV.

Outside of those other issues, going into each season, you can start a rookie QB with the expectation of being terrible for at least one year, if not 2-3 years.... or you can sign a retread QB with the expectation of being mediocre and at least being able to compete for a playoff spot.

Sure, there are a lot of variables, but because teams can spend years trying to find a franchise QB, why waste that kind of time when you can take the low risk option and be competitive much sooner?

It's only been a trend for ~40 years, so I'm not sure how anyone couldn't spot it... sign retread QB, be competitive until the ship sinks and fans get angry, sign another retread as a quick fix watch season ticket sales increase, be competitive and watch ticket sales sky rocket until the ship sinks and fans get angry, sign another retread....

Nzoner 12-09-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262684)
Anyway, wouldn't it have made more sense to fix the game for a New York team since they were the city attacked?

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10262685)
Exactly...

No,because if you recall the Patriots were introduced before that Superbowl as a team instead of individual players.So here's a team called the Patriots in red,white and blue being introduced as one because "united they stand,divided they fall." What greater story for a nation that had just experienced the worst terrorism attack in its history.

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 10263004)
No,because if you recall the Patriots were introduced before that Superbowl as a team instead of individual players.So here's a team called the Patriots in red,white and blue being introduced as one because "united they stand,divided they fall." What greater story for a nation that had just experienced the worst terrorism attack in its history.

A greater story might have been a team from the city that was attacked.

Bottom line is that a very good team won the Super Bowl that year and that team went on to be the best team of that decade.

Nzoner 12-09-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10263024)
A greater story might have been a team from the city that was attacked.

Bottom line is that a very good team won the Super Bowl that year and that team went on to be the best team of that decade.

So which team do you choose?The Patriots were the perfect team for a "feel good story".

ILChief 12-09-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262950)
The best straw man ever.

How? You say we can't win because we won't draft a first round qb. There's a qb we could have had. Maybe ej Manuel, geno smith, Brandon weeden, jake locker? I guess those guys would have us headed to the super bowl

Bearcat 12-09-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10263056)
How? You say we can't win because we won't draft a first round qb. There's a qb we could have had. Maybe ej Manuel, geno smith, Brandon weeden, jake locker? I guess those guys would have us headed to the super bowl

Everyone knows there aren't any guarantees... that's why they won't draft one. Teams try for years to find the right QB, but at least those teams are trying. It's high risk / high reward.... and the reward is much higher than drafting even a guaranteed 15 year Pro Bowl OT. It's also pretty much guaranteed that the team will go through a shitty season or two, so there's no point in taking that risk if you can be competitive with a retread much sooner.


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