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NFL eyeing proposal to abolish extra points (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=280812)

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 10383283)

Sure it's pretty pointless, but I've never heard of anyone complaining about it. Just leave it alone. Gives me more time to refill my drunk or take a leak.

Rob Gronkowski hates extra points.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10383288)

Are we ****ing serious here?

This rule would be so stupid in so many ways. It doesn't matter if the XP is pretty automatic. What's more important is that every time you kick an XP, you make a decision not to go for 2. I like the fact that teams have the option of laying up and getting a safe one point. Especially late in games.

This rule would not get rid of the option of getting the one point.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10383288)

They still get the option. And nobody runs fake xps if that's where you're going next.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsChoke010414 (Post 10383296)

Well, I guess giving bigger distances more points does give the extra point more meaning, but I'm not willing to go that far. I just want a minor change to the system.

WHY?...

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Originally Posted by ChiefsChoke010414 (Post 10383296)

Well, I guess giving bigger distances more points does give the extra point more meaning, but I'm not willing to go that far. I just want a minor change to the system. I suspect most fans wouldn't accept a drastic change either.

The system in the OP, henceforth known as the "Rain Man Sytem", eliminates the boring part and makes the exciting part more exciting, while not changing the basic structure of scoring or the game. It satisfies every goal.

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10383290)

Rob Gronkowski hates extra points.

He also hates the multitude of bacteria found in bath houses...

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Originally Posted by ChiefsChoke010414 (Post 10383309)

I feel like I've answered both those questions already.

I'd disagree.

I don't think it adds to the "action" or "excitement."

I think it makes us more like ****ing Canadian football...

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10383307)

He also hates the multitude of bacteria found in bath houses...

Based on the pictures I've seen, he also dislikes shirts.

Would you guys be in favor of this trickling down to the college and even high school levels?

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10383312)

I'd disagree.

I don't think it adds to the "action" or "excitement."

I think it makes us more like ****ing Canadian football...

I think it would speed up the flow of the game. Score TD. Take the point, go to commercial while Special Teams sets up for the kick off/Go for two, go to commercial while Special Teams sets up for the kick off. Either way we come back from commercial and they kick it off to start the next series.

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 10383324)

Would you guys be in favor of this trickling down to the college and even high school levels?

I'd say half of all high school football teams can't make 75% of XPs on a regular basis.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsChoke010414 (Post 10383301)

Well, I think you could still give the teams the option to go for 2. If they make it, they get 8 points, if they miss, they get 6.

If they score a touchdown and choose to do nothing else, they get 7.

You could do that, but I still hate the idea on principal. You're essentially saying that if you go for 2... you gain a point if you convert and lose a point if you don't. I don't like freebies. If you're going to go for 1, then earn it. You shouldn't take that away just because it saves you a few minutes of your day.

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 10383238)

There is no logic problem. If they do this they can remove 5-10 worthless plays per game. Heck, now when teams get inside the 2 often they'll just go for it on 4th. There were a whopping 12 19yd fgs in the entire NFL this year out of 998 total. There were 1267 xps.

There is a logic problem. It's there. your numbers don't eliminate it.

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10383325)

How about instead of that we invest more in the replay system and make sure ALL change of possession and game changing plays get reviewed?

That Seattle/49'er game was HORRID. There were three plays there that could have changed the game.

You know, improve the current product before we worry about changing it...

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10383087)

NFL eyeing proposal to abolish extra points
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By Marc Sessler
Around the League Writer
Published: Jan. 20, 2014 at 04:53 p.m.
Is the extra point about to go the way of the dinosaur?

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell told NFL Network's Rich Eisen on Monday that the league's Competition Committee might eventually abolish the time-tested point after touchdown in favor of a brand-new scoring system.

"The extra point is almost automatic," Goodell said. "I believe we had five missed extra points this year out of 1,200 some odd. So it's a very small fraction of the play, and you want to add excitement with every play.

"There's one proposal in particular that I've heard about. It's automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six."

Extra points have become an afterthought. Unless you're up against Lawrence Taylor in Tecmo Bowl, there's virtually zero drama attached to the point after. Taylor's old coach Bill Belichick has often opined about about how unnecessary the extra point feels.

Goodell said "some issues" stand in the way of a change, asking: "Is that going to discourage people from going for two?"

We doubt it. Teams inclined to go for the deuce will continue to do so in situations that call for an eight-point score -- with the same potential consequences. Traditionalists might disagree, but this is a good idea long overdue.

Well, unless you're a kicker.

Goodell's entire interview will air Monday night at 8 p.m. ET on NFL Network's "Total Access."

I think this proposal is kind of stupid. Let me ge this right: if a team scores a TD they automatically get 7 points witout kicking the extra point, right? But if they choose to go for 2 points, but don't make the attempt, they get penalized for it and only get a total of 6 points?

Meh.

You gotta pay the kicker for something, right, I mean, the kicker has to contribute something to the friggen bottom line, right? So those extra points are important.

Here's what I'd do--if a team wants to not kick the extra point, but wants to "go for it" why not make it for 3 points? So, if a team scores a traditional TD for 6 points, but instead of kicking the traditional extra point, they decide to go for more points, get rid of the 2 points and have it be for 3 points.

So a TD and going for it will net a team 9 points. While a TD and a traditional extra point will still net 7 points. This way the kicker is still getting paid to make the extra point, which is the vast majority of how they contribute to scoring, but going for it, instead of kicking the extra point will really be more enticing as it's an additional 3 points, or the same thing as kicking a field goal.