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htismaqe 03-12-2014 10:32 AM

This conversation is REALLY going to become fun when they don't extend Alex Smith and everybody that was in the "we got our QB" camp realizes what that means.

loochy 03-12-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10483683)
sorry for being rude, but that's ignorant.

It probably is ignorant. I don't know a lot about that.

However, I don't bother getting my panties all in a bunch because there is absolutely nothing I can do about the situation.

BossChief 03-12-2014 10:37 AM

The Saints didnt have cap space....they were 20+million over the cap...but they signed Byrd.

The Broncos have lots of guys walk and found a way to sign 3 top tier difference makers in Ward, Talib and Ware.

The Chiefs have 60 million tied up in 5 players that could all be restructured to make that necessary push to compete with Denver and the rest of the teams in the AFC to try and you know.....try to actually win a title or at least have a shot at doing so.

They could EASILY clear up another 20 million in cap space and at least try to add some playmakers to help them get over the hump

keg in kc 03-12-2014 10:38 AM

They're doing it right. You don't win in free agency. You win in the draft.

'course that means they have to start drafting well at some point, but that's another thread.

BigRock 03-12-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10483683)
sorry for being rude, but that's ignorant.

It's not ignorant at all. Restructuring contracts pushes the money into later years. Which is well and good if the guy's going to be around, but 3 of the top 4 cap hits are Bowe, Hali, and Flowers. How many of those three do you see being on this team in two years? I say maybe one. I could see two of them not being here next year, depending on how their 2014 goes.

If you push money into future years on guys who aren't around for those future years, you end up with dead money. Even with the increases in the cap this year, teams with lots of dead money were having to cut guys off their roster just to free up cap space. So the cap increases aren't a magic elixir.

The bill will come due eventually. You want to push it back because you want gratification today. That's OK, but that doesn't mean it's a foolproof plan with no consequences.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10483740)
They're doing it right. You don't win in free agency. You win in the draft.

'course that means they have to start drafting well at some point, but that's another thread.

Exactly.

BossChief 03-12-2014 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483711)
This conversation is REALLY going to become fun when they don't extend Alex Smith and everybody that was in the "we got our QB" camp realizes what that means.

Or when he signs a carbon copy deal of Tony Romos and that keeps us from continuing to bolster this roster and causes us to continue to have to let guys walk in free agency.

beach tribe 03-12-2014 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483682)
Now there's some hope.

No reason for hope?

beach tribe 03-12-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483688)
And when they don't?

Jesus, why do you even watch?

BossChief 03-12-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10483740)
They're doing it right. You don't win in free agency. You win in the draft.

'course that means they have to start drafting well at some point, but that's another thread.

I've always been in the build through the draft group...but part of that strategy isn't to let your draft picks walk in free agency.

beach tribe 03-12-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10483740)
They're doing it right. You don't win in free agency. You win in the draft.

'course that means they have to start drafting well at some point, but that's another thread.

That's a good point

beach tribe 03-12-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10483774)
I've always been in the build through the draft group...but part of that strategy isn't to let your draft picks walk in free agency.

Every team who drafts well has guys waiting in the wings and let's guy walk every. single. year.

keg in kc 03-12-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10483774)
I've always been in the build through the draft group...but part of that strategy isn't to let your draft picks walk in free agency.

It's a new front office, so "their" draft picks start with Eric Fisher.

(sigh)

BossChief 03-12-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 10483742)
It's not ignorant at all. Restructuring contracts pushes the money into later years. Which is well and good if the guy's going to be around, but 3 of the top 4 cap hits are Bowe, Hali, and Flowers. How many of those three do you see being on this team in two years? I say maybe one. I could see two of them not being here next year, depending on how their 2014 goes.

If you push money into future years on guys who aren't around for those future years, you end up with dead money. Even with the increases in the cap this year, teams with lots of dead money were having to cut guys off their roster just to free up cap space. So the cap increases aren't a magic elixir.

The bill will come due eventually. You want to push it back because you want gratification today. That's OK, but that doesn't mean it's a foolproof plan with no consequences.

Lets say you have been at your job for 4 years and have put in extra hours and have spent personal time learning the aspects of the jobs of those above you in your place of business.

During this time, you have been living in a very modest house that your family has outgrown.

You get informed by your employer that they are going to offer you a position that carries a pay increase of 30% over your already good rate.

One of the first things you do is contact a realtor to gauge the housing market, right?

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-12-2014 10:49 AM

It's March 12 people a lot of off-season left.


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