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The Franchise 03-12-2014 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10483875)
How many examples are there of teams successfully building through free-agency? Not many. Given the new CBA, building through the draft will become even more of an imperative given cheap rookie contracts.

Teams consistently win by drafting (include rookie FAs here too) well AND having a good coaching staff.
Just completely gloss over the fact that the cap is increasing almost $10 million a year over the next 2 years.

And you can draft well all you want.....but it doesn't mean dick when you don't sign those draft picks to their 2nd contract.

Mother****erJones 03-12-2014 11:05 AM
We should've been stacked after '08 draft.

TEX 03-12-2014 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10483879)
Just completely gloss over the fact that the cap is increasing almost $10 million a year over the next 2 years.

And you can draft well all you want.....but it doesn't mean dick when you don't sign those draft picks to their 2nd contract.
Thats exactly right. If you dont sign them, then something went wrong.

milkman 03-12-2014 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10483831)
Its hard to do from my phone, but Id have retained Schwartz for starters...
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10483834)
That'll close the gap on Peyton Manning! Way to go!
You are full of shit, Direckshun.
The move by Tex gives your line an opportunity to retain some chemistry and cohesion.

I saw an offense that improved over the course of the last 6 games, and adefense whose major weakness was exposed and taken advantage of over the course of the last 9.

You add a reliable WR opposite Bowe, and competent FS play, and with a couple of additions in the draft, and you have a team that can compete.

Trading 2 draft picks for a QB, then follow that up with moves designed to stockpile picks and cap space are inconsistent approaches.

BossChief 03-12-2014 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10483879)
Just completely gloss over the fact that the cap is increasing almost $10 million a year over the next 2 years.

And you can draft well all you want.....but it doesn't mean dick when you don't sign those draft picks to their 2nd contract.
Exactly.

You can't say "we want to build through the draft" in one breath and then say "it's ok that we are letting everyone walk in FA that we drafted" in the next breath.

Direckshun 03-12-2014 11:13 AM
The team that retains Schwartz still loses ground to Manning and the Broncos this offseason.

milkman 03-12-2014 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10483875)
How many examples are there of teams successfully building through free-agency? Not many. Given the new CBA, building through the draft will become even more of an imperative given cheap rookie contracts.

Teams consistently win by drafting (include rookie FAs here too) well AND having a good coaching staff.
Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett and Marshawn Lynch.

Mother****erJones 03-12-2014 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10483896)
You are full of shit, Direckshun.
The move by Tex gives your line an opportunity to retain some chemistry and cohesion.

I saw an offense that improved over the course of the last 6 games, and adefense whose major weakness was exposed and taken advantage of over the course of the last 9.

You add a reliable WR opposite Bowe, and competent FS play, and with a couple of additions in the draft, and you have a team that can compete.

Trading 2 draft picks for a QB, then follow that up with moves designed to stockpile picks and cap space are inconsistent approaches.
Ya I said last night give me a FS, Emmanuel Sanders and DRC. Add to line in the draft except round 1. I'd spend on skill positions and the core players.

OldSchool 03-12-2014 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10483901)
Exactly.

You can't say "we want to build through the draft" in one breath and then say "it's ok that we are letting everyone walk in FA that we drafted" in the next breath.
Except, they didn't draft those guys.

mcaj22 03-12-2014 11:15 AM
or give up two 2nd round picks for a 30 year old QB and then say, we want to build through the draft.

OldSchool 03-12-2014 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10483903)
Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett and Marshawn Lynch.
Avril and Bennett were both bargain signings, not huge bank breaking deals like the Donkeys are doing.

Fish 03-12-2014 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10483875)
How many examples are there of teams successfully building through free-agency? Not many. Given the new CBA, building through the draft will become even more of an imperative given cheap rookie contracts.

Teams consistently win by drafting (include rookie FAs here too) well AND having a good coaching staff.
The problem is that we've been trying to build through the draft for some time now, only to piss down our leg when it comes time to sign a second contract for our home grown talent. Building through the draft isn't very meaningless if the team refuses to pay a contract once those draft picks exceed their rookie contract.

The Franchise 03-12-2014 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10483902)
The team that retains Schwartz still loses ground to Manning and the Broncos this offseason.
Bullshit.

jd1020 03-12-2014 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10483907)
Except, they didn't draft those guys.
Time to rebuild after making the playoffs in year 1.

Bowser 03-12-2014 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10483902)
The team that retains Schwartz still loses ground to Manning and the Broncos this offseason.
That's not entirely fair seeing as how the entire league has lost ground to the Broncos this offseason thus far.

The Broncos are going all in on 2014. This is likely it for Manning. None of that gives the Chiefs a free pass to sit back and wait for the storm to pass.


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