Your word for the day is "Tertiary".

DJ's been the worst loss this season, no question.

Berry's been a big loss, but we have an adequate replacement.
Mays has been adequately replaced by Mauga.
DeVito's has been adequately replaced by Vickerson/Howard.
Owens has been adequately replaced by Gaines.
Allen's been adequately replaced by McGlynn.
Stephenson's been adequately replaced by Harris.

You could make an argument that losing Avery is almost as bad as DJ, oddly enough...

Well, Berry is blitzing and playing in the box a lot. A lot more than Reed did when Reed played strong safety early in his career. A lot more than most strong safeties who play in a Ryan defense. So I think it's more than an interesting question to ask if that's Rex Ryan, or if Berry is making on-field adjustments.

A signature of Ryan's defense is lining the strong safety with the linebackers so that they can make adjustments safeties in most other defenses cannot or do not. Which is why I bring it up. I don't know the answer. But just in general, I just don't see Berry making the same kind of instinctive reads that I see Polamalu and Reed making. I can't help but wonder if Berry is an athletically gifted player whose place is in a scheme where he's told exactly what to do. Or... perhaps if you line him up in a defense with Parker and Bailey, that's a big enough upgrade that Berry becomes a totally different player.

LMAO

Hey, YOU said in the AustinChief thread that CP taught you new words.

Why do we assume he's getting 10 plus million per year? I don't remember off the top of my head, but I don't think even earl Thomas got that

If Berry were the reason we were getting best deep as much, you'd have a point.

Replacing Lewis and demps did that trick.

We haven't yet gotten to see what Berry can be added to the current group of safetied

I'm not sure the turnover argument is because of Berry. I think Sutton realized his aggressive play calling doesn't work well against Manning, Rivers and Brady. It does work against back-ups who hold the ball too long. KC has been blitzing a lot less...maybe because Berry/DJ arent in there..but its actually working out for the better.

Hali has 5 FF last season..Berry 2.

If KC can beat Rivers and Brady without Berry....is his salary justified? Safety is just about the least important position on defense....you dont need the best...just cant have suck...*cough Lewis cough*

While DJ did make the big play, I have my doubts about how great his gap integrity really was.

It's also a pretty big indicator that, yes, when Houston and Tamba went down last year, the defense was markedly different.

It would be really interesting to see a case study through 6 games last yr vs this year on turnovers and punts.

Last years team had more turnovers, but this years team has forced more punts. All things considered, forcing punts means the D is giving the ball back to the offense.

Thru 6 games last year, the dense was on a historic pace in terms of turnovers and points scored.

I think the pass rush is just that important. Look at Seattle last year to this year.

This tear, their pass defense is way down compared to last year and is actually ranked dead last in generating pressure.

We've really got to stop hyping up our pass defense. Rivers, Manning and Locker had their way with us while Kaep did pretty well. We've only truly looked good against the pass in 2/6 games this season.

We are good at generating pressure and getting off the field on 3rd downs but that's about it.

By some of the logic in this thread, we almost beat rivers without half our team last year, should cut.

He didn't disappear against blockers like JMJ consistently does.

JMJ had a game earlier this year with 0 tackles. That's just unheardof for his position in this defense.