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jkw87 10-31-2014 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11072578)
The Hunt family went 1 of 2 in Super Bowls and earns a playoff bid once every fourth or fifth year with veteran QBs acquired from another team.

Drafting a first Round QB risks that kind of run. That's why you'll never see the Chiefs draft a Geno Smith or an Andrew Luck.

That and they're afraid of investing a guaranteed 70 million in one guy.
You're an idiot if you think they would have passed on Luck if we'd had the opportunity. Throwing Geno into the same category with Luck shows your stupidity.

Rasputin 10-31-2014 10:24 AM
Chiefs are penetrating mediocrity champions.

Imon Yourside 10-31-2014 10:24 AM
We definitely should have sucked for Luck, man everyone was on board here except for the idiots running the organization.

jkw87 10-31-2014 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11073096)
Chiefs Planet is awful at evaluating QB play. Just unbelievably bad....End of thread and every other one like it
Yeah, but when they get on that bandwagon with shitty quarterbacks and scream first round... Shit like that will never stop.

Marcellus 10-31-2014 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11072397)
There's not really anything controversial in the article. The guy's right. In the 'battle' of Geno v. Alex, Alex is the clear winner.
Reading comprehension skills are lacking here though.

The article didn't say you should never draft a QB, just that in that scenario it worked out better not drafting Geno.

The same idiots here are going to attempt to claim that Clark "won't allow" his very high paid hand picked coach and GM to draft a QB if they wanted to.

It's pretty hilarious.

I am willing to bet good money our next every day starting QB will com from the draft.

jkw87 10-31-2014 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11073251)
Nothing wrong with acquiring a veteran to ease the rookie into the league.

The problem I have is when teams like the Chiefs trade for those veteran backups and act like just because they used the draft to acquire their guy, that means they basically drafted their own QB.

They didn't. All they did was pay an unnecessarily high price for a stop gap-level talent QB who could have been had in free agency.

And yet people like me last year who advocated making the "stabilization period" for the QB position on this team as brief as possible with a free agent like Carson Palmer were ridiculed because Palmer wasn't good enough. You're right, he's not. He would have given us Alex Smith, basically.

Only, you know... we'd be up two 2nd round picks by now, we'd be free to pick any young QB we wanted to wait in the wings, and could ditch the free agent QB at any time without being wasteful
I actually agree with you on this. We overpaid for Smith in both draft picks and money... It was a mistake and I hope it wasn't the only thing Dorsey will be remembered for here.

Bearcat 10-31-2014 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11073272)
Reading comprehension skills are lacking here though.

The article didn't say you should never draft a QB, just that in that scenario it worked out better not drafting Geno.

The same idiots here are going to attempt to claim that Clark "won't allow" his very high paid hand picked coach and GM to draft a QB if they wanted to.

It's pretty hilarious.

I am willing to bet good money our next every day starting QB will com from the draft.
The article comes oh so close to saying the 'boring' strategy is better whenever you don't have a chance to draft a QB like Andrew Luck.... because, like he said, Geno Smith in the 2nd round was such a stretch.

The Bad Guy 10-31-2014 10:35 AM
Overpaid in draft picks?

Just Passin' By 10-31-2014 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11073290)
The article comes oh so close to saying the 'boring' strategy is better whenever you don't have a chance to draft a QB like Andrew Luck.... because, like he said, Geno Smith in the 2nd round was such a stretch.
The article is specific to the Geno/Alex debate.

Easy 6 10-31-2014 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 11073294)
Overpaid in draft picks?
I know right, like a couple of seconds is some kind of franchise killer raping for a steady handed veteran.

Discuss Thrower 10-31-2014 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jkw87 (Post 11073263)
You're an idiot if you think they would have passed on Luck if we'd had the opportunity. Throwing Geno into the same category with Luck shows your stupidity.
No first round QBs since Blackledge in 1983.
No second round QBs since Matt Bludnin 1992.
Brodie Croyle in the 3rd round in 2006.
Pat Barnes in the 4th in 1997.
Aaron Murray and Ricky Stanzi in the 5th in 2014 and 2011 respectively.


There's all the evidence in the world that if the gun was put to any given Chiefs' GM's head, he doesn't select a QB.

Because that gun is being held by a member of the Hunt family, and they believe a high round QB is too risky.

Hootie 10-31-2014 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11073252)
It's not about going down to the dollar store and picking up a franchise QB, it's about trying a clearly superior strategy while finding a middle ground between not trying at all and picking a QB for the sake of picking one... or at least trying a different strategy besides the one that's obviously failed for most of the past 4 decades (outside of Joe Montana and that one time they actually drafted a QB in the first round).
Outside of Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson, what QBs have been drafted lately that you would have wanted more than Alex Smith?

If Joe Flacco can win a Super Bowl, pretty sure Alex Smith can, too.

Rausch 10-31-2014 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11073296)
The article is specific to the Geno/Alex debate.
So it's an argument over 0/1 VS. 0/0...

RealSNR 10-31-2014 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11073300)
I know right, like a couple of seconds is some kind of franchise killer raping for a steady handed veteran.
I'll never understand this line of argument that "It was only a couple of 2nd round picks."

They're only ever just a couple of 2nd round picks... unless you actually draft good players with them. Then, yeah, they ARE a couple of 2nd round picks that we no longer have. And that ****ing sucks.

Saccopoo 10-31-2014 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11073272)
Reading comprehension skills are lacking here though.

The article didn't say you should never draft a QB, just that in that scenario it worked out better not drafting Geno.

The same idiots here are going to attempt to claim that Clark "won't allow" his very high paid hand picked coach and GM to draft a QB if they wanted to.

It's pretty hilarious.

I am willing to bet good money our next every day starting QB will com from the draft.
This front office has already made investments at the QB position.

They've selected/drafted or signed a rookie QB in each of the last two off-seasons. They signed the best known commodity at the position that was available to them when they absolutely needed to (Alex Smith).

They are not sitting on their hands at the position.

I'm pretty sure that they will draft a QB in the higher rounds when one is available that fits their parameters for the position.

Reid has done it in the past and Dorsey did it in Green Bay.

I concur that our next QB will be one that was drafted and developed by the KC Chiefs.

It's not going to be next year or the year after, but it will happen.


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