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The Franchise 11-22-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11137037)
Eric is the most overrated player this team has ever had IMO.

:rolleyes:

srvy 11-22-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11136795)
Go move Earl Thomas to SS and ask him to do the same shit that Berry does and you'd get the same result....if not worse.

Now how can you say that? His College Coach and every coach in the pros he has had see's him playing up on the line of scrimmage. As for Earl Thomas we have not seen him at anything other than Free Safety who is to say him could play Strong and do well. Thats just a guess on your part with no facts to back it up. Berry we have seen at both and he is not earning his payday. If he is hurt he needs to set his ass down and not hurt the team.

ILChief 11-22-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11136999)
Neither is Alex Smith then.

What is smith's pay compared to other QBs?

Johnny Vegas 11-22-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11137012)
Impatient? Why? Because he was injured?

Is he earning less because he was injured?

didn't he have a great year after his acl injury that landed him the extension? he'll bounce back from an ankle sprain but to expect this from any player out 9 games and come back 2013 form in 2 games 4 days within eachother...yea I'm saying you're being impatient.

srvy 11-22-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11136820)
I agree with all of this.

DJ, apparently, single handedly, was an amazing run stopper. Amazing. No way we lose that game with DJ. Or get manhandled in the run game against Buffalo and Seattle.

Losing him really hurt.

We were gashed by the run last your and DJ was around. By teams also salivated and passed all over us. I think we are right where we are even if DJ was here.

ThaVirus 11-22-2014 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11136937)
Yes.

He's earning $11.6 million dollars this season so I expected him to play commensurate to his salary.

It seems like it's "okay" to slam Dwayne Bowe for his contract, even though he's on pace for a good season but mentioning how poorly Berry is playing in relation to his salary is sacrilegious to some.


I haven't seen much evidence to support the conclusion that he's playing poorly.

Has he made poor plays? For damned sure. As have Alex Smith, Poe, Houston, etc. Hell, Jamaal has made some shit-ass plays this season.

He also isn't appearing impactful on the stat sheet, I admit, but neither is anyone in our secondary. People were praising Parker as an All-Pro after one good Buffalo game. That guy has, what, 1 INT all year? Sean Smith is having a stellar season. How many INTs for him? 0.

Sorter 11-22-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 11137075)
Now how can you say that? His College Coach and every coach in the pros he has had see's him playing up on the line of scrimmage. As for Earl Thomas we have not seen him at anything other than Free Safety who is to say him could play Strong and do well. Thats just a guess on your part with no facts to back it up. Berry we have seen at both and he is not earning his payday. If he is hurt he needs to set his ass down and not hurt the team.

http://i.imgur.com/jO0N20P.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pFJsrhe.jpg

Earl Thomas not playing FS.

Sorter 11-22-2014 04:15 PM

As for Eric, playing deep 1/3 or 1/2 is a tiny bit different than his role as an ILB in sub-packages he's been playing during his time here.

They've got 2 years to see how Berry adjusts this. While I agree his production isn't meeting his salary, he's still in the process of learning a new spot and playing adequately. I don't know if that production can be replaced via a combination of Parker/Coleman/Commings/Draft Pick/FA but I wouldn't view him as a waste of money this early.

BossChief 11-22-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 11137134)
As for Eric, playing deep 1/3 or 1/2 is a tiny bit different than his role as an ILB in sub-packages he's been playing during his time here.

They've got 2 years to see how Berry adjusts this. While I agree his production isn't meeting his salary, he's still in the process of learning a new spot and playing adequately. I don't know if that production can be replaced via a combination of Parker/Coleman/Commings/Draft Pick/FA but I wouldn't view him as a waste of money this early.

When we take a look at the group of players in the nfl who are getting 10m+ Eric is one of the weakest examples out there.

It sucks to say that because I was on top of the world when we drafted him...the guy just doesn't offer much impact.

"He's great against the run"

Our run defense didn't exactly fall apart without him.

He's the best safety against tight ends"

We had the leagues best pass defense while he was out.


If a team would give us a conditional 2nd/3rd for him, I'd take it.

Mr. Laz 11-22-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 11136928)
he's just 2 games back in from being on the bench over an injury since week 2 and y'all mother****ers expect this human being to come out blazing opponents like he's some sort of machine?? I bet by in 2 weeks he'll be comfortable again. it took this team 4 weeks to get rolling like they have been and those 4 weeks this place was in full meltdown mode.

I don't think anyone is melting down.

People are just beginning to be skeptical about Berry being worth 9 million per in FA.

If Berry starts knocking down balls and intercepting passes back there at single high then imagine everyone will be find with paying him all that money.

Hammock Parties 11-22-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11136937)
Yes.

He's earning $11.6 million dollars this season so I expected him to play commensurate to his salary.

It seems like it's "okay" to slam Dwayne Bowe for his contract, even though he's on pace for a good season but mentioning how poorly Berry is playing in relation to his salary is sacrilegious to some.

Berry is a sacred cow around here compared to Bowe, who might as well be Taliban.

BossChief 11-22-2014 05:22 PM

For him to be worth that kind of jack he needs to be

Ed reed
Brian Dawkins
Troy Polamalu
Jarius Byrd


He raises his level of play and shows flashes of being the playmaker from his first two years at Tennessee...pay the man.

If not, let somebody else do so because difference makers like Houston and Poe need that money.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-22-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Alex's Wins (Post 11137201)
Berry is a sacred cow around here compared to Bowe, who might as well be Taliban.

True. LMAO

KCrockaholic 11-22-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 11137121)

This is a poor example.

Sorter 11-22-2014 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 11137208)
This is a poor example.

How so?


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