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Just Passin' By 12-01-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11160004)
Past 20 yards? He had zero. His only pass that WAS 20 yards was his TD to Fasano.

Plenty of QBs find open receivers when they're blitzed. Smith shits himself and gets sacked.

Weeks 1-4, Brady had a sieve of an OL, a TE who was still trying to get healthy, and a WR corps that was Edelman and nobody else. The result was people claiming he was done, because he was struggling to overcome the pile of shit around him.

Smith's not Brady, so why are people here up in arms because he can't overcome a similar pile of shit? His one advantage over what Brady had going for him should be Charles, but Reid has been underusing him.

Just Passin' By 12-01-2014 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 11160025)
Packaged play.

I've got a question for you Sorter, if you don't mind. In looking at the KC offense, I see it basically like this:

If you like Kelce, you've got

Charles
Smith
Kelce
Fisher
Hudson

as players who are pretty much locked in as starters next year. Bowe could be a salary cap casualty. The rest of the offense is probably going to be open competition because of level of play combined with other circumstances. The offensive overhaul might well mean 6 new starters.

Is that what you're seeing?

RunKC 12-01-2014 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11160017)
No, it's a coincidence that he's just slow now. And he doesn't mentally get himself in the right spots very often.

Last night after the fumble from manning, the second play we run a bubble screen to DAT and bowe is running downfield to catch a pass, not even touching a player.

I put some of this on coaching. They should have tried to fake that and burn them deep.

Problem is that Alex was getting the ball out fast. He was pressured so quickly last night that we didn't have time to let plays develop.

ViperVisor 12-01-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11160045)
I put some of this on coaching. They should have tried to fake that and burn them deep.

Problem is that Alex was getting the ball out fast. He was pressured so quickly last night that we didn't have time to let plays develop.

In the 4th quarter Smith was waiting for the plays down-field but it was at a point where Denver knew it was a 2 score game and I'm guessing Smith saw a lot of guys in coverage and didn't want to force a pass. He had a couple times a check-down was open for a few yards but didn't care to look for it because it wasn't gonna be enough.

ThaVirus 12-01-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11159957)
Or he can't get open......



all of his catches are slants and stop routes. We pay a guy 11 MILLION to catch slants and stops, and with no separation.


That's play calling, brah.

O.city 12-01-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11160071)
That's play calling, brah.

I think there's a reason that's all they ask him to do.

The Franchise 12-01-2014 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11160077)
I think there's a reason that's all they ask him to do.

So I guess all they really ask of Charles is to run it 7 times then....right?

O.city 12-01-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11160084)
So I guess all they really ask of Charles is to run it 7 times then....right?

I'm not sure why that matters. The broncos had 8 8 the box and attacked our ol.

We were over matched at every spot. It didn't matter how many times they hand it to him.

And yes, that's all they ask bowe to do because he can't really do anything else at this point.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-01-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11159983)
It's a much shorter list if you categorize it by "Must Keep"

This.

Heap big garbages on this roster.

ThaVirus 12-01-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11160077)
I think there's a reason that's all they ask him to do.


Or those are the only routes Alex feels comfortable throwing. I've been banging the drum for a while now but all you ever see him throw is slants, hitches, and flat routes to RBs. Obviously that's not ALL he throws, but I'll be damned if it doesn't appear to be about 90% of his passes. He'll have the occasional crossing route or drag thrown in from time to time.

Where are the deep posts, the go routes, the corner routes, any type of double move whatsoever?

You've admitted that we've been seeing open receivers down the field after the games have been played. Alex just doesn't like pulling the trigger.

Eleazar 12-01-2014 01:13 PM

Draft 5 offensive linemen!

Direckshun 12-01-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11158876)
AJ Jenkins
Donnie Avery
Mike DeVito (his Achilles' tendon is AIDS)
Mike McGlynn
Ryan Harris
Joe Mays
Chris Owens
Kurt Coleman
Josh Muaga
Jeff Linkenbach
Frankie Hammond Jr
Chase Daniel
Anthony Fasano
Jeff Allen

With McGrath's retirement money that is $20 million dollars to us next year. Cut these AIDS infested failures polluting this team and bring some quality players in.

I think Mays stays, and they bring back Daniel, Allen, and Mauga. Maybe Coleman, too.

Everybody else is gone.

RunKC 12-02-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11160126)
I think Mays stays, and they bring back Daniel, Allen, and Mauga. Maybe Coleman, too.

Everybody else is gone.

I can see Allen and possibly Mauga and Coleman for the league minimum, but why Mays? He's going to cost us $4 million next year. I just can't justify paying him that.

And what's the deal with Daniel? If Alex gets hurt we're screwed either way. Chase Daniel isn't going to come in and start winning us games, plus with the way we play, we get the ball out so fast and hand it off so much (well some games :cuss:) that Alex isn't in any major jeopardy of getting hurt.

It's time for Dorsey to start doing what he says. He's building through the draft. Well Aaron Murray should be able to take over the back up role with his skill set and experience in college.

Dee Ford should be able to take over for Tamba next year. He's a first round pick for christ sakes.

I'm going to be pissed if these guys don't move up the depth chart next year, especially Ford.

RunKC 12-02-2014 11:45 AM

Oh, and we only get $9 million back from Bowe this spring unless we drop him after June 1st, then we get $11 million. I'd rather just drop him before so we can use that money to get a FA.

But who knows, maybe Dorsey will drop him that late so he can have more money to give Houston his new contract.

penbrook 12-02-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11162326)
I can see Allen and possibly Mauga and Coleman for the league minimum, but why Mays? He's going to cost us $4 million next year. I just can't justify paying him that.

And what's the deal with Daniel? If Alex gets hurt we're screwed either way. Chase Daniel isn't going to come in and start winning us games, plus with the way we play, we get the ball out so fast and hand it off so much (well some games :cuss:) that Alex isn't in any major jeopardy of getting hurt.

It's time for Dorsey to start doing what he says. He's building through the draft. Well Aaron Murray should be able to take over the back up role with his skill set and experience in college.

Dee Ford should be able to take over for Tamba next year. He's a first round pick for christ sakes.

I'm going to be pissed if these guys don't move up the depth chart next year, especially Ford.

Ford has played 7.5% of the defensive plays this year. Hali has played 92.5% of the defensive plays. Hali isn't going anywhere next year


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