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jonzie04 12-15-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11194867)
I disagree completely.

And I think that Knile Davis has performed far above UDFA status, which is a joke.

It never ceases to amaze that guys like you think that bozos with nothing more than an internet domain are smarter than longtime personnel evaluators and NFL GM's.

Umm yes, knile has performed beyond his draft projection. And i'm happy for that
BUT That doesn't mean it wasnt a reach at the time....

And a lot of these guys with internet domains have been doing this a very long time and have multiple inside sources. But since you place so much faith in longtime nfl evaluators and NFL GMs, Walterfootball interviewed a few gms on dee ford and they all saw him as "a late second rounder who would get picked up by a foolish team".

lcarus 12-15-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11195151)
Hey dipshit. Just last year, Avery broke Wilson's season totals this year IN JUST ONE GAME against Philadelphia.

He was torching secondaries with his speed just last year in the playoffs.

What has Albert Wilson done besides play meaningful offensive snaps in two ****ing games all year?

****, even I didn't go THIS full reerun when I was pimping Ricky Stanzi LMAO

Avery's ****in worthless at this point

DaneMcCloud 12-15-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11195159)
Umm yes, knile has performed beyond his draft projection. And i'm happy for that
BUT That doesn't mean it wasnt a reach at the time....

Give me a break. He wasn't a "reach" and he's certainly proven his worth.

Why anyone would denigrate Dorsey for this selection is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11195159)
And a lot of these guys with internet domains have been doing this a very long time and have multiple inside sources. But since you place so much faith in longtime nfl evaluators and NFL GMs, Walterfootball interviewed a few gms on dee ford and they all saw him as "a late second rounder who would get picked up by a foolish team".

Walter's been around since the 90's and he's still as worthless as ever. They're all hobbyists at best. They're not professional scouts that are on the road 45 weeks out of the year, helping teams evaluate players, nor is there any repercussion from their mock drafts and "analysis" because they aren't employed by an actual NFL organization.

In other words, no one is going fire Walter for saying that Knile Davis is a "bad selection", which makes his opinion(s) just like everyone else on the internet.

Ragged Robin 12-15-2014 07:43 PM

Avery is a piece of shit and proved it Week 1 @ TEN. Zero hands, not as fast as his 40 says (partly because he's 30 and has lost a step), can't get open, can't fight for the ball, is a brokedick and also a midget to boot. He plays a big role in why the receiver depth chart is a steaming pile of dung. Would rather throw Wilson or even Hammond out there in his stead at this point to see if there's anything there because Avery is already a known commodity.

RealSNR 12-15-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11195159)
Umm yes, knile has performed beyond his draft projection. And i'm happy for that
BUT That doesn't mean it wasnt a reach at the time....

And a lot of these guys with internet domains have been doing this a very long time and have multiple inside sources. But since you place so much faith in longtime nfl evaluators and NFL GMs, Walterfootball interviewed a few gms on dee ford and they all saw him as "a late second rounder who would get picked up by a foolish team".

He as a reach at the time by whose standards? I know a lot of draft sites at the time had him as a 3rd/4th/5th round pick. Hardly UDFA leftover garbage like you claim he was at the time.

ToxSocks 12-15-2014 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11195043)

But at this point, it's all speculation and optimism but unlike guys like Hemingway, Jenkins, etc., he's caught on very quickly and flashed early in his career.

Exactly. I like him and i hope he pans out, but i need to see him do it over the course of a full season. He has certainly made the best out of his opportunities.

If it doesn't work out.....well....there's guys like that on every team, every season.

RealSNR 12-15-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 11195228)
Would rather throw Wilson or even Hammond out there in his stead at this point to see if there's anything there because Avery is already a known commodity.

Dude they HAVE been thrown out there. Avery's been injured half the year.

The only thing Wilson has proven at this point is that he's not as ****ing awful as Frankie Hammond.

ToxSocks 12-15-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11195159)
Umm yes, knile has performed beyond his draft projection. And i'm happy for that
BUT That doesn't mean it wasnt a reach at the time....

And a lot of these guys with internet domains have been doing this a very long time and have multiple inside sources. But since you place so much faith in longtime nfl evaluators and NFL GMs, Walterfootball interviewed a few gms on dee ford and they all saw him as "a late second rounder who would get picked up by a foolish team".

What are you basing this "reach" around?

That's incredibly subjective. Apparently he wasn't a reach according to Chiefs scouts. And guess what? They were right.

That's all that matters.

Whatever your stupid draft site said doesn't matter. An NFL ball club said he was worth a 3rd and they were right.

Bottom Line.

BigMeatballDave 12-15-2014 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11195269)
What are you basing this "reach" around?.

LOL Pun intended?

Hootie 12-15-2014 08:19 PM

are people actually arguing that Avery is a good receiver?

Saccopoo 12-15-2014 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11195314)
are people actually arguing that Avery is a good receiver?

It seems so...

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...hrug-house.gif

Jim Lahey 12-15-2014 08:36 PM

Avery is as good as gone come this offseason.

Roll into next season with Bowe, Wilson, DAT, and a couple rookies. Wouldnt mind bringing Avant back for cheap depending on the market and our cap situation.

Titty Meat 12-15-2014 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11195314)
are people actually arguing that Avery is a good receiver?

SNR is.

Titty Meat 12-15-2014 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11195151)
Hey dipshit. Just last year, Avery broke Wilson's season totals this year IN JUST ONE GAME against Philadelphia.

He was torching secondaries with his speed just last year in the playoffs.

What has Albert Wilson done besides play meaningful offensive snaps in two ****ing games all year?

****, even I didn't go THIS full reerun when I was pimping Ricky Stanzi LMAO

Albert Wilson is a #4 maybe #3 WR. He can also play special teams.


Donnie Avery is a #4 or #5. I bet he's not even in the league next year.

TimBone 12-15-2014 08:52 PM

Wait, SNR was pimping Ricky Stanzi?


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