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Meatloaf 03-19-2015 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 11392759)
Meatloaf, who's the better at tackling?

Eric Kendricks

Or...

Brandon Siler

Sorter, are you suggesting that since Siler was drafted in the 7th round (2007), that Kendricks in the first is too much of a reach? If so, well, I've seen Kendricks taken as high as 1.11 and not even in the top 50 on some boards. So there's quite a spread on this guy.

As I said before, I'd rather have Williams or Gordon. Sounds like Kendricks could be a very good player who will likely go somewhere at the end of round 1 or top of round 2.

Generally speaking, I want playmakers/difference-makers with an early selection (if at all possible), hence my leanings towards Williams or Gordon.

BTW, I'd be shocked if the Chiefs selected an ILB at 1.18. I think it's much more likely that they'd take a CB than an ILB.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-19-2015 04:40 PM

I'm going to laugh my ass of when Dorsey pisses on the fatty pimps this year, and doesn't take another one until the third. *

*Unless we have a comp pick in the 2nd.

That shit is over.

Bank it.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-19-2015 05:08 PM

Can we please just draft that WR in the 1st so everyone will shut the **** up !!!!

The Franchise 03-19-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11392979)
I'm going to laugh my ass of when Dorsey pisses on the fatty pimps this year, and doesn't take another one until the third. *

*Unless we have a comp pick in the 2nd.

That shit is over.

Bank it.

2nd round comp pick?

You should try paying attention to how the NFL draft really works before spewing out an opinion.

Meatloaf 03-19-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 11393018)
Can we please just draft that WR in the 1st so everyone will shut the **** up !!!!

And who would that be, Hog? I believe the top three (White, Cooper, Parker,) will be gone. Who then? Mr Boom/Bust (DGB)?

I think we can get a really good WR that'd blend in with our offensive scheme in rounds 2-3.

Anyway, who you got in mind for 1.18?

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-19-2015 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11393022)
2nd round comp pick?

You should try paying attention to how the NFL draft really works before spewing out an opinion.

Hypothetical on the 2nd. In any case, the point stands; the era of the high round fatty is over in KC.

milkman 03-19-2015 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11391474)
No.

The offensive line is a mystery to YOU, not Andy Reid or John Dorsey. You'll never, ever, EVER be in the ballpark if you don't think like the people that are actually making the selections. Dorsey has now gone on record saying that Kush is his guy. He'll bring in competition, but there's not a chance in hell he does it in Round One.

I don't believe that you've actually seen an NFL game.

I don't believe about half of the bullshit that GMs and coaches spew, and doubt the rest.

Cameron Erving would not be my first choice for that pick, but it's not nearly as ridiculous as you make it out to be.

We can certainly use more weapons, but I'd rather do my damnedest to make sure that the weapons we do have aren't wasted because Alex Smith is getting his ass pounded into the turf, or running for his life.

And right now, bullshit be damned, we can't do that.

DaneMcCloud 03-19-2015 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11393211)
I don't believe about half of the bullshit that GMs and coaches spew, and doubt the rest.

Cameron Erving would not be my first choice for that pick, but it's not nearly as ridiculous as you make it out to be.

It wouldn't be as ridiculous of the Chiefs had even one wide receiver on the roster that actually scored a touchdown in one of sixteen games last year.

60 minutes x 16 games = 960 minutes without a TD by a receiver. That's insane.

You may not believe Dorsey but considering the way he's addressed the WR and guard spots, I believe that if he was truly unhappy with Kush, he'd have placed a higher priority in free agency.

milkman 03-19-2015 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11393219)
It wouldn't be as ridiculous of the Chiefs had even one wide receiver on the roster that actually scored a touchdown in one of sixteen games last year.

60 minutes x 16 games = 960 minutes without a TD by a receiver. That's insane.

You may not believe Dorsey but considering the way he's addressed the WR and guard spots, I believe that if he was truly unhappy with Kush, he'd have placed a higher priority in free agency.

Jeremy Maclin is going to be a part of the solution (a big part), and there should be good value at WR in the second round.

I actually don't care what they go with in the first round, wheher it be WR, OL, ILB, or corner.

Just give me the best player that plugs a hole.

Meatloaf 03-19-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11393219)
It wouldn't be as ridiculous of the Chiefs had even one wide receiver on the roster that actually scored a touchdown in one of sixteen games last year.

60 minutes x 16 games = 960 minutes without a TD by a receiver. That's insane.

You may not believe Dorsey but considering the way he's addressed the WR and guard spots, I believe that if he was truly unhappy with Kush, he'd have placed a higher priority in free agency.

Dane, I think you and Milk are BOTH right. Alex needs to be upright, and I'd agree that Dorsey would've probably gone the free agent route if he felt Kush wasn't going to at least be adequate. Heck, they kept him as solely a backup center, so apparently they had something in mind.

I agree with Milk though that we definitely need more help on the OL. I just don't know what we have with Stephenson. He played horribly last year (when he played). And, what if Fisher DOESN'T improve. Could get ugly.

Discuss Thrower 03-19-2015 07:22 PM

Erving makes sense if you think he can be a tackle and you're okay with letting him sit for a year to replace whoever plays right or you move Fisher to right and Erving moves to left in 2016.

Meatloaf 03-19-2015 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11393225)
Jeremy Maclin is going to be a part of the solution (a big part), and there should be good value at WR in the second round.

I actually don't care what they go with in the first round, wheher it be WR, OL, ILB, or corner.

Just give me the best player that plugs a hole.

Milk, what if the BPA is a DT, DE or OLB, would you not take that guy at 1.18?

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-19-2015 07:25 PM

Drafting "Best Position Available" is for losers.

Meatloaf 03-19-2015 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11393232)
Erving makes sense if you think he can be a tackle and you're okay with letting him sit for a year to replace whoever plays right or you move Fisher to right and Erving moves to left in 2016.

Discuss, that'd make sense assuming Erving is a good tackle. Not saying that he won't be, but I think there are other folks I'd rather have at 1.18. That said, I won't go into convulsions if the Chiefs brass makes said selection.

DaneMcCloud 03-19-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11393225)
Jeremy Maclin is going to be a part of the solution (a big part), and there should be good value at WR in the second round.

I actually don't care what they go with in the first round, wheher it be WR, OL, ILB, or corner.

Just give me the best player that plugs a hole.

I'm good with those positions, too. There will be WR's in the second that can probably start immediately.

But if they were to go center, then it's possible that their second rounder may be a CB or ILBer, pushing receiver to the third.

I just don't believe that center at #18 would be the choice and could have a ripple effect with the end result being less talented players at serious postions of need.


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