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Deberg_1990 06-30-2015 09:29 AM

"True fan loves Hidden points"

Signed, Clark
Posted via Mobile Device

notorious 06-30-2015 11:15 AM

A huge sign that says "Home of the HiddenTouchdown" needs to be erected over Arrowhead.

dls6501 06-30-2015 11:26 AM

What I think is hilarious, is the very first point the writer made to support his argument is one that isn't even remotely true. He tried to argue that the 2012 49ers were a perfect example of this, as their D gave up more points when Kaepernick started than Smith did.

I looked up the stats. Smith threw 5 interceptions in the first 8 games. Kaepernick threw 3. LMFAO.

This article and point of view is a joke....especially when you have a top tier defense (which we do).

duncan_idaho 06-30-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dls6501 (Post 11573793)
What I think is hilarious, is the very first point the writer made to support his argument is one that isn't even remotely true. He tried to argue that the 2012 49ers were a perfect example of this, as their D gave up more points when Kaepernick started than Smith did.

I looked up the stats. Smith threw 5 interceptions in the first 8 games. Kaepernick threw 3. LMFAO.

This article and point of view is a joke....especially when you have a top tier defense (which we do).

Kaerpernick's time also featured a tougher schedule against better offenses, including the playoffs. But that's irrelevant!

Hidden points!

Marmatag 06-30-2015 03:08 PM

If you're going to give hidden points, you should also take away hidden points, which are the byproduct of inaccuracy, poor decision making, overly cautious play, et al.

Also, what's better:

3 TDs, 3 INTs
or
0 TDs, 0INTs

Answer: 3TDs, 3INTs. An INT isn't -7 points in reality. A touchdown is +7 or 8 points, in reality.

Otter 06-30-2015 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11573615)
"True fan loves Hidden points"

Signed, Clark
Posted via Mobile Device

You should check out my invisible private jet and three translucent Victoria Secret girl friends. I'd post a pic but, well, ya know.

Hoopsdoc 06-30-2015 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11572946)
I just can not agree with this.

Brett Favre was the ultimate gunslinger, and his lack of ball security almost certainly cost the Packers numerous opportunities in the playoffs.

Alex Smith is at the total opposite end if the spectrum however.

There is a happy medium.

We want a QB that weighs ball security with calculated risk.

Alex Smith never pushes the envelope, so when the time comes to push, he can't even find it.

Yes, a happy medium is ideal.

Given the choice though, I'd rather have a guy who leans a little more gunslinger.

Easy 6 06-30-2015 07:02 PM

This guy is reaching for the stars, I try to lean positive in most situations but this is too much.

Smith is a steady, reliable vet who's played in some big games on some good teams... he will rarely kill your chances for a win with a terrible mistake, and he will also rarely win a game for you with gunslinging heroics.

At his very, very best he's a fringe top 10 player... we could definitely do worse, and most teams do.

But there are no magical secret squirrel points outside of touchdowns.

Its AP, people here like to sling "true fan" at people like me and others LMAO... you should see the poll they have about "who can the Chiefs least afford to lose?".

Charles
Smith
Houston
Other

Charles won, which sure, thats fine and I get it but voted differently... but a way too close second was Smith followed in a distant third by Houston.

This year, next year, the year after that... the guy we HAVE to keep is Houston, he's just that good.

Marcellus 06-30-2015 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11573488)
This stat is a ****ing lie. I don't care about it.

If you're not scoring enough, you're not scoring enough, period, and the # of drives doesn't enter into it.

How in the wide world could points per drive not be relevant to how efficient your offense is?

Hammock Parties 06-30-2015 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11574670)
How in the wide world could points per drive not be relevant to how efficient your offense is?

Because it's a sneak thief way of measuring offensive efficiency by Alex Smith homers who are deceitful, lying skanks.

When you suck at offense long drives that don't score many points isn't a good thing.

Marcellus 06-30-2015 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11574732)
Because it's a sneak thief way of measuring offensive efficiency by Alex Smith homers who are deceitful, lying skanks.

When you suck at offense long drives that don't score many points isn't a good thing.


No shit Sherlock. What does long drives that don't score points have to do with avg points scored per drive except to make it worse? Which doesn't fit your narrative.

Hammock Parties 06-30-2015 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11574809)
No shit Sherlock. What does long drives that don't score points have to do with avg points scored per drive except to make it worse? Which doesn't fit your narrative.

That's why our points per drive is high, but our actual points are low.

We don't have a lot of drives because they're all such long-ass drawn out field goaly affairs.

It's a bullshit stat.

The Chiefs need to score more points.

Rausch 06-30-2015 07:44 PM

Scoring pts, moving the football, and owning the TOP help a defense...

Marcellus 06-30-2015 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11574817)
That's why our points per drive is high, but our actual points are low.

We don't have a lot of drives because they're all such long-ass drawn out field goaly affairs.

It's a bullshit stat.

The Chiefs need to score more points.

If you have more drives like other teams but don't score any more points per avg drive you will need a ton more drives to make up for the difference.

You are still better off scoring more per drive.

chiefzilla1501 06-30-2015 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11574817)
That's why our points per drive is high, but our actual points are low.

We don't have a lot of drives because they're all such long-ass drawn out field goaly affairs.

It's a bullshit stat.

The Chiefs need to score more points.

No, they aren't. We can win games with long-ass drawn out drives. In those grinding games, we've won a lot of them. The problem is when Alex Smith struggles to extend drives. For a guy who gets so much credit for being a game manager, he has way too many games where the defense bails him out and then it's passed off as game management.


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