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DaneMcCloud 07-31-2015 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11629608)
They added 4 years and $88 million to his deal. This math is very simple.

And he's under contract for 5 years, with a total value of $87.5 million dollars.

$17.5 million per.

Alex Smith money.

Hootie 07-31-2015 12:09 PM

everyone does realize that Aaron Rodgers 5 year $110M deal was also an extension, right? Right? Anyone? Anyone?

It's guaranteed money. Russ gets a bunch of guaranteed money, up front. He essentially bet on himself while also guaranteeing himself a lifetime of money. Now, come 2018, if he's a top 3 QB in the NFL (which I think he will be), Seattle is going to have to extend him, AGAIN, towards his age 30 season. Then he'll get a MONSTER ****ing contract ... whereas, Rodgers won't be able to do that.

There is no way Wilson ever plays 2019 at that number. It simple WILL not happen. He'll either be long gone, or extended in 2018. That's how it works.

So in 2018, when he's a top 3 NFL QB, he'll probably get something like 5 years, $130M extension with inflation at like $90M guaranteed.

Urc Burry 07-31-2015 12:10 PM

Aaron Rodgers contract was also an extension. It was just his 3rd contract, so he was at 10ish before. I don't get the big deal... They got the same amount per in NEW money. Is that easier?

Hootie 07-31-2015 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11629616)
And he's under contract for 5 years, with a total value of $87.5 million dollars.

$17.5 million per.

Alex Smith money.

LMAO

you're not FACTORING IN the fact Smith was EXTENDED

EXTENDED

EXTENDED

So for Smith, you're counting his 4 years, $68M EXTENSION as $17M per ... and Rodgers' ... but then for Wilson, you're also factoring the last year of his rookie contract and then saying, "see! $17.5M per year!!!!!"

yet you're not doing that for Smith or Rodgers ... who were also on their 2nd contracts, not rookie contracts

you're a ****ing moron

Saul Good 07-31-2015 12:12 PM

This place is hysterical.

Hootie 07-31-2015 12:13 PM

Romo was an EXTENSION
Rodgers was an EXTENSION
Smith was an EXTENSION

EVERY. ****ING. QB. IS. AN. EXTENSION.

Yet Dane is trying to win a battle he has already lost by factoring in the final year of Wilson's original contract to try and say he's making Alex Smith money while totally ignoring every other QB's EXTENSION YEAR

it's hilariously stupid

DaneMcCloud 07-31-2015 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11629624)
LMAO

you're not FACTORING IN the fact Smith was EXTENDED

EXTENDED

EXTENDED

So for Smith, you're counting his 4 years, $68M EXTENSION as $17M per ... and Rodgers' ... but then for Wilson, you're also factoring the last year of his rookie contract and then saying, "see! $17.5M per year!!!!!"

yet you're not doing that for Smith or Rodgers ... who were also on their 2nd contracts, not rookie contracts

you're a ****ing moron

Could you be any dumber?

Russell Wilson is under contract for 5 years, $87.5 million in total. If he sees every penny of that contract, it's $17.5 million per year.

How in the ****ing world is it that you don't even understand simple math, Pizza Boy?

Hootie 07-31-2015 12:14 PM

so if Wilson played out his rookie contract this year and signed that 4 year deal after the season ... he'd be making $22M per year

but since he was extended, suddenly he's only making $17M per year because for some reason we are factoring in the last year of his rookie contract for some reason

...yet we don't do that with Smith, Rodgers, or Romo ... who were all on 3rd contracts

I mean ... good God

Hootie 07-31-2015 12:23 PM

but don't worry ... in 5 years Dane will try and say we misunderstood the fact he wouldn't trade 2 1sts for Wilson ... he was never asked if he'd trade 3, which he clearly would have ... he was just never asked

DaneMcCloud 07-31-2015 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11629631)
so if Wilson played out his rookie contract this year and signed that 4 year deal after the season ... he'd be making $22M per year

but since he was extended, suddenly he's only making $17M per year because for some reason we are factoring in the last year of his rookie contract for some reason

...yet we don't do that with Smith, Rodgers, or Romo ... who were all on 3rd contracts

I mean ... good God

You are a ****ing idiot. I wouldn't trust you to make change with a $20 bill.

One more time, Wilson has a BRAND NEW CONTRACT. While it adds $87.5 million in new money, he's under contract for 5 years.

His rookie contract no longer exists. Kaput. No where in sight.

If Russell Wilson meets every single escalator, he'll earn $87.5 million over the course of 5 years. Got it? $87.5 million for five years.

That is, on average, $17.5 million per year.

And that is ALL that matters.

Hootie 07-31-2015 12:34 PM

you realize the 5 for 110 with 80 guaranteed WAS AN EXTENSION PREDICTION, right?

ALL OF THESE ****ING CONTRACTS ARE EXTENSIONS. ALWAYS. ALWAYS. ALWAYS. ALWAYS. ALWAYS.

ALEX SMITH? EXTENSION.
AARON RODGERS? EXTENSION.
TONY ROMO? YOU GUESSED IT! EXTENSION.

4 for 88 with 60 IS 5 for 110 with 80

you do realize that, right?

Eleazar 07-31-2015 12:37 PM

Hootie doesn't deal with losing very well. May I suggest something from the bar?

ViperVisor 07-31-2015 12:41 PM

Nonsense

Nobody says Smith is a 15mil per commitment for KC because of when he signed the future commitment contract

ThaVirus 07-31-2015 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11629565)
but you are saying the bonus is spread out over more years because its an extension.





im not sure that true, he's still getting paid 1.5 million base this season by the looks of things


The bonus will be spread over all years of the current contract, which includes the final year of his old contract.

So instead of having a, let's say, $1 million cap hit for 2015, a 1/5th portion of his signing bonus will accelerate and hit the cap this year alleviating some of the cap hit from later years.

When you're talking about divvying up a $31 million signing bonus over five or six years as opposed to four, the difference can wind up being pretty significant.

ThaVirus 07-31-2015 12:47 PM

It's funny how people can view the same information and come to completely different conclusions


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