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Reerun_KC 10-13-2015 10:27 AM

Funny how this went from a Reid thread to a Smith thread...

Anything to deflect the pressure off of Reid...

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-13-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11799038)
What do you do with Houston? Put his hand in the dirt? SLB?

I think you stick with the 3-4. You re-sign Howard and put him at NT. Poe is moved to DE opposite Bailey. Ford and Houston are your OLBs. Wilson is one ILB and hopefully they found a gem in March.

Agreed. That or free agency to find a quality ILB. The only way we are competitors next season is if we fire Sutton, retain Sean Smith, develop Nelson/Peters this season, and figure out what gaps we have going into the draft.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 10:35 AM

So say that the Chiefs lose to the Vikings (which is pretty much a given) and then lose to the Steelers putting us at 1-6. If the Chiefs lose to the Lions in London.....should Reid be fired after that game?

chiefzilla1501 10-13-2015 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11798987)
Alex could do what Peyton's doing this year with Denver and they'd be just a good.

Belichick could be coaching this team with Alex on it, and they'd be in SB contention.

Alex isn't be the best or worst QB, but he's far from the organization's biggest problem.

No, we wouldn't. We'd be in the same place we were last year. 9-7 and clearly outmatched against elite teams like Denver. He is part of the problem because he's not part of the solution. You're not going to change Alex Smith. I'd rather get rid of both, but if I had my choice, without a doubt I know Andy Reid can build a more explosive offense without Smith because he's done out several times before.

It's becoming clear that with Alex Smith, yiu have to build an elite running game and elite defense to win games. Now he needs an ol too. And receivers. If your QB is that dependent on other teams success, he's not the QB to build around. I'm not one to overreact on qbs. I've given Smith plenty of rope, as I did with cassel. But sooner or later you have to realize he's causing a lot of problems his fans claim he's being victim to.

BigMeatballDave 10-13-2015 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11799098)
So say that the Chiefs lose to the Vikings (which is pretty much a given) and then lose to the Steelers putting us at 1-6. If the Chiefs lose to the Lions in London.....should Reid be fired after that game?

Absolutely, but Clark won't.

The Franchise 10-13-2015 10:41 AM

If we lose to the Lions....it's clear that we're the worst team in the league.

New World Order 10-13-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11799108)
If we lose to the Lions....it's clear that we're the worst team in the league.


That game could be for all the marbles.

gblowfish 10-13-2015 10:45 AM

It's pretty hilarious that our trip to London could be a contest to see who can suck the most.

BTW: This year is not "An Abyss." The year Belcher killed his wife and himself, that was an abyss.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-13-2015 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11799103)
No, we wouldn't. We'd be in the same place we were last year. 9-7 and clearly outmatched against elite teams like Denver. He is part of the problem because he's not part of the solution. You're not going to change Alex Smith. I'd rather get rid of both, but if I had my choice, without a doubt I know Andy Reid can build a more explosive offense without Smith because he's done out several times before.

It's becoming clear that with Alex Smith, yiu have to build an elite running game and elite defense to win games. Now he needs an ol too. And receivers. If your QB is that dependent on other teams success, he's not the QB to build around. I'm not one to overreact on qbs. I've given Smith plenty of rope, as I did with cassel. But sooner or later you have to realize he's causing a lot of problems his fans claim he's being victim to.

Let me get this straight...you think Quarterbacks can win a ring by themselves? Rodgers won his SB title alongside a top 5 defense. Wilson did it with the #1 defense. Roethisberger did it twice with a top D. Flacco did it with an amazing defense and Rice/Pierce who averaged >4.5 YPC. Tom Brady won his first 3 superbowls with game manager level stats behind a solid defense.

Alex Smith is not the exception. Every successful team needs a good defense, a decent run game, and a smart QB. Why else would teams be paying 70 million a year for their defense personnel? You disregarding the importance of having a good defense on this board is absurd.

ptlyon 10-13-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11799115)
It's pretty hilarious that our trip to London could be a contest to see who can suck the most.

It would be awesome if they could get Keith Jackson to call the game. "And this one is for all the marbles!"

Ebolapox 10-13-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11798809)
It's darkest before the dawn.

ROFL

homer.

RealSNR 10-13-2015 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11799115)
It's pretty hilarious that our trip to London could be a contest to see who can suck the most.

BTW: This year is not "An Abyss." The year Belcher killed his wife and himself, that was an abyss.


Give it time. We still got a lot of season left.

Chiefnj2 10-13-2015 11:14 AM

Biggest Problems:
1. Reid.
2. Smith.
3. Loss of Charles.
4. Dee Ford.
5. Secondary that can't cover.
6. OL
7. WR's 2-5.
8. Injury/old age/disease to DJ, Berry, Poe.

bevischief 10-13-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 11798734)
Team has not hit rock bottom yet.

But the fans have

bevischief 10-13-2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11798850)
Well we are in a world of shit

That is a understatement.


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