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O.city 04-25-2016 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12194421)
No, I wouldn't.

It generally takes a player at least a year to learn Reid's system, so Treadwell wouldn't likely be a factor in 2016.

I think his ceiling is Dwayne Bowe, a good possession receiver with decent ball skills. I don't think his ceiling is MegaTron and if he fell to #28, it's would be clear that the NFL doesn't think so, either.

I don't think this offense needs a Dwayne Bowe.

I don't think him falling to 28 determines his future, but I'm not keen on taking a wr early either.

DaneMcCloud 04-25-2016 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12194441)
I don't think him falling to 28 determines his future, but I'm not keen on taking a wr early either.

I just don't see the need for a WR that runs a 4.65 in this offense.

Now, if Josh Doctson was there, it would be tough to pass on him, depending on which defensive players were on the board at the time.

KevB 04-25-2016 12:22 PM

I see Treadwell as more of a Brandon Marshall type WR. He was considered top 10-15 based on everything people had seen up until he ran a 4.6 40. He's an all around receiver, and how many times are we going to throw it vertical? Besides, Maclin and Conley can fill that role. Treadwell is a chain mover/red zone threat that gives Alex yet another option. I'd prefer a few other players, but I won't be upset if we take him.

O.city 04-25-2016 12:26 PM

I wonder if treadwell is back to 100 percent.

He always seemed to have good hands when I watched him live, where are the bad ball skills reports coming from dane?

KevB 04-25-2016 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12194491)
I wonder if treadwell is back to 100 percent.

He always seemed to have good hands when I watched him live, where are the bad ball skills reports coming from dane?

He apparently had a few drops this year that are being attributed to focus, but I've watched plenty of video of the guy making all kinds of catches (in traffic, back shoulder, over the shoulder, etc.) to believe he'll be just fine in that area.

Chief Northman 04-25-2016 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12194452)
I just don't see the need for a WR that runs a 4.65 in this offense.

Now, if Josh Doctson was there, it would be tough to pass on him, depending on which defensive players were on the board at the time.

Yeah.

If the Chiefs feel the need to draft WR high, then Doctson would be my choice. He would arguably bring dependability to the #2 WR position this team has lacked for a long time (let alone a #1). Great hands, wins contested balls, and a sneaky good route runner who has developed a knack to create separation for a "bigger" receiver prospect. Another valuable red zone target and chain mover, Doctson could open things up even more for the Maclin/Kelce duo.

O.city 04-25-2016 04:08 PM

My ultimate sleeper, Michael Thomas from Southern miss. 6th round.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-25-2016 06:53 PM

Devontae Booker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYb34m4nxr0
Not saying we should draft him considering needs this year. Not nearly the potential of Charles, but a reliable player with good blocking ability.

Also, he is familiar with read-option and a spread offense. Played in a tough conference too. Chip or Pederson might snag him.

Chief Northman 04-25-2016 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12195086)
Devontae Booker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYb34m4nxr0
Not saying we should draft him considering needs this year. Not nearly the potential of Charles, but a reliable player with good blocking ability.

Also, he is familiar with read-option and a spread offense. Played in a tough conference too. Chip or Pederson might snag him.

Familiar with read-option and spread?

That's like 95% of all players. Advocate for whoever you want, but don't try to qualify/justify with stupid shit like this.....

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-25-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 12195089)
Familiar with read-option and spread?

That's like 95% of all players. Advocate for whoever you want, but don't try to qualify/justify with stupid shit like this.....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...spect-rankings
Apparently the dude is climbing up Mayocks draft board. You must know more than him, right?

RunKC 04-25-2016 07:14 PM

Interesting sleeper pick here: Josh Garnett. Think he fits us very well.

Chief Northman 04-25-2016 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12195098)
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...spect-rankings
Apparently the dude is climbing up Mayocks draft board. You must know more than him, right?

He is not climbing up draft boards because of his familiarity with zone-read and spread concepts.

****.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-25-2016 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 12195111)
He is not climbing up draft boards because of his familiarity with zone-read and spread concepts.

****.

You need to reread my original post, Sherlock.

redshirt32 04-25-2016 11:17 PM

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TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-26-2016 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12194452)
I just don't see the need for a WR that runs a 4.65 in this offense.

Now, if Josh Doctson was there, it would be tough to pass on him, depending on which defensive players were on the board at the time.

If he is available to us we should swap our late first with San Fran's early 2nd , take a 4th from them to help recuperate our lost (late) third round pick


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